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| 2 | 2 | Regards above question, not too familiar with what most of these terms mean, but i can't really see how anarchism could function without unions and communism. Though primitivism is pretty silly... |
| 3 | 2 | The river of anarchism is wide and should be welcoming to all points of view. |
| 4 | 2 | Capitalism cannot function without force. |
| 5 | 2 | Anarchism doesn't mean "stateless" it means "whitout rule". "Anarcho"-capitalism bases itself on the belief in a moral rule of economic "logic": laissez faire (and capitalism in general) is a system of hierarchy and rule, and places the sources of society outside the individual. |
| 6 | 2 | Individualism assumes that the state is bad because it imposes on people's personal freedom. I think the state is bad because it allocates power and promotes a culture of domination. I object to the motivations of the individualist, if not the ends they wish to achieve. Primitivism is untenable from a utilitarian perspective. Insurrectionist anarchism weds itself to a process of domination (violent revolution) and again violates utilitarian principles on the hunch that the outcome would |
| 7 | 2 | Individualism is silly, but so is dogmatic platformism; anarchist is diverse and generative at best, but becomes impoverished by sectarianism. |
| 8 | 2 | Overly unrealistic, rightist or narcissistic (lifestyle/crimethinc) approaches to anarchism will lead to nothing but intramovement conflict and silly infighting. |
| 9 | 2 | I think that anarcho-capitalism is actually right wing libertarianism rather than anarchism. |
| 10 | 2 | Many trends are`"in flux". Libertarian socialism is my favourite identity |
| 11 | 2 | Many American anarchists think that freedom is the be-all and end-all of anarchism and they would be content to let others continue to live in poverty and ignorance if they could do what they want. I mean, how the hell can you be an anarchist and a capitalist? To me, responsibility, both personal and social, is a hallmark of revolutonary anarchism. |
| 12 | 1 | purism which excludes and restricts effectiveness. we need to find commonalities. |
| 13 | 1 | I'm a big believer in heterodoxy and something of an anti-ideologue, so I see various schools of thought as stopping points for any given individual, likely to change or evolve into something else. So long as the idea of abolishing the state is kept firmly in view, I'm happy to make alliances. |
| 14 | 1 | Because they go against the basic fundamentals of Anarchism. |
| 15 | 1 | Primitivism and insurrectionary anarchism may be problematic because they see capitalism as a system without possibilities for resistance, except withdrawal or violence. Plattformism may be problematic because it often favours dogmatic workerism and hangs on to outdated analysis of class composition. Plattformists are also often sectarian. Lifestyle anarchism means different things to different people, but when it means that people can treat people whatever way they want to because they a |
| 16 | 1 | i don't know what you mean by "problematic trends", most of the trends above aren't influential at all - so while I don't agree with primitivism or crimethinc, I don't think they are particularly problematic. |
| 17 | 1 | In a nutshell, because the profit motive will always tend to destroy, with or without a state. |
| 18 | 1 | Technology is a tool in humanities progress, we can't turn back the clock. |
| 19 | 1 | I think Christianity is wrong. I'm tired. |
| 20 | 1 | I don't subscribe to any political platform, agenda, utopium, and because many who call themselves anarchists do and talk about political correctness and such, I call myself an anarchosophist instead. Because I coined the word, nobody can tell me how to define it. |
| 21 | 1 | All anarchist trends are problematic to the extent that their adherents are dogmatic and unresponsive to changing conditions in the world around them - a problem that is prevalent across the board in anarchist ideologies. |
| 22 | 1 | Organized religion has no place in anarchy. That is not to say that the spiritual aspects of christian ideals have no place; however organized religioun is as big an enemy of freedom as fascism, capitalism, and the state. The idea of anarcho-capitalism just makes me laugh. |
| 23 | 1 | Because they're immature movements that alienate us from the working class, and ruin anarchism as a practical philosophy. |
| 24 | 1 | capitilism does nothing but create social imbalance. Religion does nothing but create wars. |
| 25 | 1 | Ideological fetishism; failure to work with the tools at hand, on the problems in front of us. |
| 26 | 1 | Principle problem in anarchism today is the lack of a mass movement orientation. |
| 27 | 1 | In my opinion ANARCHISM and POLITICS have nothing to do with each other. At least i think it should be like that. In my country many so called " anarchists " are more into politic than into real anarchy. |
| 28 | 1 | Organized action by working-class people is the only action worth a damn. |
| 29 | 1 | I think religiously motivated political world views are generally self destructive. |
| 30 | 1 | Even though I feel like Christianity informs my politics, and Anarchism informs my theology, I don't feel like the two roads can be combined into something called "Christian Anarchism." |
| 31 | 1 | I find Individualism and Anarcho-Capitalism to be antithetical to social liberation, and counter to a classless society. I think Primitivism should be classified as a lifestyle fetish with funny ways of representing itself as a trend within anarchism or any movement. Crimethinc puts out pretty literature, but I think those aspiring to make it into a movement tend to exaggerate what is essentially a collection of poetry. |
| 32 | 1 | Insurrectionary Anarchism is dumb for the sake of breaking a few windows. Demonstrations are key, but it is not good enough as a protest. it hurts the image. insurrectionaries should be shunned. i feel anarchists that are insurrectionary should concentrate more on preparing themselves for civilization's collapse then trying to bring about social upheaval. I feel social upheaval is immanent anyway, and it makes for sense to be constructive and defensively prepared than destructive. Acad |
| 33 | 1 | I think insurrectionists tend to lack strategy to go with the tactics they want to use. I think academic anarchism can be alienating and privileges those who have access to higher education. I think lifestyle anarchists *tend* to have white privilege/male privilege/cis privilege and many other privileges that allows them to achieve their lifestyles, therefore judging others who do not choose to live a certain way is a lack a recognition of said privilege. I think Crimethinc puts too much emph |
| 34 | 1 | The essence of the anarchist ideological strength is its capacity to absorb virtually all aspects of political thought as long as it is geared toward the liberation of the society from the organized bureaucratic monopoly on political power. In other words, in contrast to the Marxists, one does not have to remain strictly 'Bakuninist' to adhere to certain tenants of Bakunin's teachings yet develop his own valid anarchist convictions and thoughts. |
| 35 | 1 | Primitivism as a lot of the thinkers behind it are well known anti-semitists, anarcho-capitalism because it stills put economic interest before social equality and freedom, sectarianism because it denies an engagement towards the whole of the society. |
| 36 | 1 | Any anarchism is good. |
| 37 | 1 | Anarchists shy away from creating alternative ways to invest for a profit and in so doing prevent the greedier elements of the investment class from contributing to the establishment of some core structure that can serve as an example for others to follow on their own. |
| 38 | 1 | The philosophy that post modernism expresses is not suitable for mankind and should be revised. anarcho capitalism? We all have issues with that one i think.... |
| 39 | 1 | Class struggle anarchism is the way forward the rest are at best dead ends and at worst completely incompatible with anarchism. |
| 40 | 1 | If we keep ourselves seperated, and argue about every last detail, we'll never get anywhere. It is the people vs the government, and some groups seem to think it's their small group vs the world. anarcho-capitalism is a farce. Lifestylists are ok as long as they just aren't only about style. |
| 41 | 1 | Violence is authoritarian by nature and thus un-anarchist, I don't see how rioting and fighting will have any pragmatic advantages. Insurrectuíonary anarchism only confirms the skewed view of anarchism=chaos held by statists. Primitivism is just irrational and doesn't even seem to have much in common with the anarchist tradition. Anarchism deals with how best to organize society, primitivists are anti-society which obviously creates tension. |
| 42 | 1 | the platform in my opinion is a system that encourages the use of a power base. it's not so much that power corrupts but rather that it is attractive to the corruptible. in my opinion, the system is too similar to communism, too easy to manipulate and create an elite. capitalism can not work with anarchism, it is also a system that creates and upholds power. |
| 43 | 1 | Sectarianism is pure posion to anything. The others are just not relevant to the oppressions people actually face in the real world. They have essentially nothing to offer. |
| 44 | 1 | Lack of revolutionary strategy. Undesirable goals. |
| 45 | 1 | Anarchism is anti-hierarchical including economic hierarchies blah blah blah. You get it. |
| 46 | 1 | Anarchism doesn't exist in a competent way in most modern political debate. Anarchism is largely restricted to Academia and theoretical politics. I view Primitivism as a problem because it neglects the social reality of the world around the primitivist. Most people who are living in line with their anarchist beliefs are living in a way that doesn't appeal to a mass audience, but rather exists in spite of a mass audience. In order for anarchism to become a serious movement in mainstream po |
| 47 | 1 | It limits and/or nullifies the expansion of progressive and constructive ideas, the integration of sympathizers and leads to an exponential memetical atrophy and increase of frustration within the sectarian group. |
| 48 | 1 | Because they're bourgeois lifestyle option. Lifestylists are not revolutionaries, just moralistic arseholes |
| 49 | 1 | Primitivism: often it starts to has a sole claim to anarchism and with this point of view group dynamics can crash down. Lifestyle anarchism: often they are young male guys creating a scene (scenes are a problem, cause they border from the society and we should start to be a movement and not a subculture) and with 25 they get lost. Christian Anarchism: here in germany they often try to evangelise and to baptise Anarcho-Capitalism: they just want to reorganise the power |
| 50 | 1 | destructive to any long term movement and/or struggle of real people. off-putting to new/different people. |
| 51 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchists give the general public a view that anarchists are teenage and twentysomething Days of Rage wannabes. Anarchists fight are fighting a battle for the minds of the working and oppressed, acting like violent thugs will only turn them away from anarchy. While there is a time and place for violence in class struggle, now is not it. It accomplishes nothing other than a bad image. |
| 52 | 1 | I see Anarcho-Capitalism as an oxymoron and Primitivism, in short, simply sounds bad. :) |
| 53 | 1 | Because they negate the anarchist ideals of socialism, progress and grassroots politics. |
| 54 | 1 | Anything capitalist I do not like. |
| 55 | 1 | The non-class based anarchism's because they confirm the worst stereotypes of anarchists. Platformism, not per se (The Platform isn't a bad document) but the activity of some platformist groups seems more geared to building a reputation amongst the left rather than building class power.. and more than the non-class based anarchists, they're groups which workers might actually take seriously. As for anarcho-cap and Christian's, I didn't tick them coz I've never met one. |
| 56 | 1 | Capitalism is one of the primary problems with our current system. An anarcho-capitalist system would be terrible. |
| 57 | 1 | Ideology of the Class enemy, at least in practice (ancap) Obtuse language hiding mostly hollow core (post-an) Too many internationals with historical enmities for unknown and no-longer relevant reasons (sect.) The die-off thing, answer it already. Not scalable to existing human society. Also suffers from obtuse language covering hollow core (primitivism) |
| 58 | 1 | this is not anarchism, it's libertarianism, ie right-wing stuff |
| 59 | 1 | Until we can stop thinking about ourselves above all and start thinking of others as our equals - understanding that we all are deserving of the same rights and privileges, then the revolution cannot happen. |
| 60 | 1 | I only care about my community, and none of the above trends are causing problems in New Orleans anarchy. |
| 61 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalists are simply Capitalists who don't want to follow anyone else's rules. Sectarianism leads people with similar goals to pointlessly fight each other, rather than people with opposing goals. |
| 62 | 1 | I am not familiar with most of the terms above. "Insurrectionary Anarchism" makes me think its adherents would consider the initiation of force as being ethical or even preferable. |
| 63 | 1 | Non-violent non-cooperation is the only rational and, hence, viable way forward. "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." |
| 64 | 1 | All of the above are problematic, depending on who's espousing it/them. Wingnuts and assholes exist in all tendencies! |
| 65 | 1 | Living in a capitalist society, i find it hard to combine the two ideas. |
| 66 | 1 | I don't have too much problems with primitivism but I don't think it can be a way of life for everybody. Capitalism is not anarchism, it's the law of the stronger. Religion have to be abandoned in my opinion. Sectarianism is not a sollution because if we want anarchy we have to be understood by people. We have to make efforts too. |
| 67 | 1 | A socialist system requires powerful govt. It is inherently anti-anarchist. I think of most greens as "watermelons." They are green on the outside, but red on the inside -- they say they are in favor of green initiatives but what they really want is a socialist command economy. |
| 68 | 1 | Set definitions and lifestyle theories are just as bad as law. They leave no room for growth or change within self-movement, and therefore could be considered as ignorant. However, all are important as introductory elements into anarchism. They all reach somebody. |
| 69 | 1 | Primitivism assigns a value to technology when it's actually neutral, which is problematic. Anarcho-capitalism doesn't make any sense because anarchism is opposed to the hierarchical authority and arbitrary power inherent to capitalist institutions. Christian (or any religion) anarchism can't work because it includes the kind of thinking that needs to disappear if we wish to have a free and democratic society. |
| 70 | 1 | Well, to be an anarchist, I think you must have a possible goal. Going back is reactionary, and Insurrectionism is vanguardist and not too much democratic |
| 71 | 1 | it is devicive and excludes people |
| 72 | 1 | Some anarchists seem very factional and as for ancaps, I just don't think that philosophy is worthy of discussion. |
| 73 | 1 | I believe the selected forms of anarchism fail to properly balance the emphasis of individual freedom and responsibility and its relation to collective feeedom and responsibility. |
| 74 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism??? I've never heard of Post-anarchism / poststructuralist anarchism , CrimethInc, Platformism, Primitivism |
| 75 | 1 | I believe these labels are an oxymoron. |
| 76 | 1 | I agree with the primitivists on a lot of things (getting back to nature, the problems with civilization) but I think their ideologies can be too apocalyptic and also are oppressive often towards various groups of people such as transpeople. "Anarcho"-Capitalism is an oxymoron and I still have trouble understanding why anarchism and capitalism are ever seen as anything other than two mutually exclusive ideas. I don't have a huge issue with religion within anarchist communities but I do not |
| 77 | 1 | Primitivism because Luddism will not solve our social and economic problems, it will just exacerbate them as well as kill off millions of people, Insurrectionary Anarchism because violent overthrow of the state and private property will not work in this day and age (not with how dependent on the State we are, and how little democratic economic institutions we really have in the US), Post-anarchism because... counter-enlightenment values? anti-humanism? really? Lifestyle anarchism is a fad popula |
| 78 | 1 | It's more about anarchism as a toolkit rather than schools or particular utopian scenarios. Primitivism seems to be against the way the human mind operates in general so that seems unlikely to pan out. |
| 79 | 1 | As far I see it, every body has a lot to say and is doing very little. well definatly in Johannesburg, although, some groups are forming, I still havent seen any impact of their work. I do not claim to be apart from this trend though. I dont see much happeneing overseas in the last couple of years either. Seems that the anarchists are reforming, but what they hope to achieve is still unclear. And how they hope to achieve it even more so. The overwhelming amount of shit that needs changing is sel |
| 80 | 1 | i dunno that i wanna write the essay this explanation necessitates but: - individualism, i consider not conducive or even antithetical to anarchism. - primitivism exists on a spectrum (like all the aforementioned sects) and i've talked to seemingly reasonble folks of this persuasion. i've heard of others who i consider total wingnuts and just wish they'd stop identifying as anarchists. it makes the rest of us look bad - insurrectionary stuff, at a glance, has some pomo issues in which it' |
| 81 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism because it is a contradiction to the basic principles of mutual aid and non-hierarchal politics. Sectarinism because it is simply destructive. |
| 82 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is just NOT anarchism! It just doesn't fight against the state but for a minimal state, with its army, it doesn't fight against social inequalities neither, they are bourgeois who defend their interests. Anarchists have to struggle against capitalism which is a source of great social injustices. Lifestyle anarchism becomes a problem when it stop criticizing and struggling against the law and the dominant order to live out of the real world. Once again, I think that while tr |
| 83 | 1 | Any "anarchisms" that deny the need for collective anti-capitalist class struggle are liberal tendencies and not anarchist. |
| 84 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalist should not be included since it is not true Anarchism but a deviation of Capitalism based on a misunderstanding of Capitalism. A Stateless Capitalist society would either: a)collapse without a true anarchist tendency to take its place and therefore recreate mistakes of the past or b) Monopolies will grow so large as to form their own militaries and create their own quasi-states which would be more Authoritarian, brutal, repressive, and powerful than most states today. Chris |
| 85 | 1 | Individualism. Individualist anarchists are obsessed with the distinction between "individualism" and "collectivism"; I find this distinction to be an imaginary one. Primitivism. Wacko. There is simply no way that humanity will voluntarily give up the convenience that technology gives them. Anarcho-capitalism. A truly reactionary form of "anarchism". |
| 86 | 1 | Primitivism = post-vegan bullshit. Post-Anarchist = Your not a good enough Anarchist, I'm a real Anarchist. |
| 87 | 1 | Capitalists of any stripe scare me, as do Rightwing Libertarians, Ayn Randroids and similar. The Primitivists are scary as they seem to advocate mass population decrease. |
| 88 | 1 | anarcho-cap. for obvious reasons. anarchist are by definition anti-capitalist, so trying to blend these is contradictory. academic because making a subject of anarchy for the powers that be is basically giving ammunition to them for our confinement. |
| 89 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is a contradiction. The libertarian capitalists already stole the word libertarian, let's not let them steal anarchism, too. Sectarianism divides the left and forces people to pass an ideological litmus test to organize with a particulate group. |
| 90 | 1 | cause the union makes us strong, to put it simply |
| 91 | 1 | Because we have to grapple with real problems, not imaginary ones - and we simply cannot drop out of capitalism, it has to be physically dismantled! |
| 92 | 1 | Primitivism: Current technology and communities larger than small/medium argricultural villages are necessary to maintain the number of people we currently have on this planet. An insistence on returning to more primitive technology and smaller settlements implies a massive reduction in population, and that implies genocide or some other calamity. Additionally, the advancement of technology will in the future be necessary for the betterment of humanity, our survival as a species, and our |
| 93 | 1 | crimethinc tends to preach leaching off capitalism which can work....that is, untill you decide to overthrow the system from which you are leaching too... |
| 94 | 1 | Voluntary specialization of labor is STILL Voluntary! You own yourself, period. No one else can make any claim to you, your time and your labor. You are YOURS and no one elses, no matter how well intentioned they are. |
| 95 | 1 | Many of them really has not a lot to do with 'my' anarchism. Some of the trends make it hard for me as an anarchist to promote anarchism as people see it as anarchy=chaos and anarchists=angry teens. They are drawing away anarchism from the worker's movement, which is the base. |
| 96 | 1 | I feel division is the only issue in the movement. People get to hung up on theory and forget to act in solidarity with one another. |
| 97 | 1 | I am not familiar with all of the trends listed above, so I cannot speak intelligently about the whole list. Generally, however, I feel like I would want to collaborate with anarchists on areas of mutual agreement. |
| 98 | 1 | Lifestylism, primitivism, and individualism isolate themselves from the effectiveness of class based action. |
| 99 | 1 | though my experience with other anarchists or "near"-anarchists is purely local, there is a trend to stay away from political discussion/disclosure/action in most forms. though it may just be a regional tendency or may just be caused by local factors (economic depression, very high unemployment, stagnant wages, failing music/art scene etc), there is a trend towards accepting hopelessness and frustration as inevitable consequences of life and living in the world as it is today. doing so preempt |
| 100 | 1 | I think socialism is ultimately incompatible with a free society, although I have no problem with people wanting to try. |
| 101 | 1 | I absolutely can't stand academic anarchists. I can't stand their pretensions to authority. I can't stand their approach to other anarchists. I pretty much despise them. They're the "movement" managers and party apparatchik that define "anarchism," and hence they're primarily responsible for sectarianism. |
| 102 | 1 | The Anarchist of |
| 103 | 1 | it can't be only about the individual. it has to have the collective in mind. freedom means letting people do what they want. know thy self. do what thou wilt. but harm none. |
| 104 | 1 | We need to embrace futurism/transhumanism. It is only through advanced technologies that we can succeed in destroying the market and the state, or create a sustainable way of life for 7+ billion human beings. |
| 105 | 1 | Too many anarchists focus on destroying without building too. That or escape. And neither of these groups are especially good at addressing the privilege that allows for, say, individualist primitivism. And then our faith that our tendency is right makes for sectarian stubbornness that is totally counterproductive. |
| 106 | 1 | anarchism can't be related to capitalism or to religion |
| 107 | 1 | Anarchism allows us to live in whichever society we choose to as long as it is voluntary. What I see from a lot of so called anarchists is that they want to force others to live in the society they want to live in. I want a society without coercive force, not under the coercive force of someone who thinks he knows what type of society is best for us all. |
| 108 | 1 | Individualism: I think this is fine if people want to hold onto this for themselves. Who cares? But I think there needs to be room for communist and socialist anarchists and for affinity groups, etc. Primitivism: I think it is unrealistic. I also think that many primitivists have virtually no knowledge of anthropology, leaving them with a utopian vision of pre-colonial, non-agricultural communities. Unfortunately, few of these communities were what primitivists would like them to be. The |
| 109 | 1 | I think anarcho-capitalism has no place in the anarchist movement. I am supportive of some individualist anarchism, but after countless hours of debate online with anarcho-capitalists, I think they pervert the basic principles of anarchism and should not be considered anarchists. And I think high levels of sectarianism are a huge issue for anarchists--we need to learn to get along and recognize the intersections of our issues. |
| 110 | 1 | Individualist tendencies have always plagued anarchist thought and attempts to organize, especially here in N. America. Although in some ways grumpy ol' Bob Black was right that "Murray Bookchin [was] a grumpy old man," Bookchin was right on in his skewering of lifestyle "anarchists"...pseudo-countercultural folks w/ little or no real political consciousness beyond their consumer choices and "self-branding," unfortunately... Most of the truly committed and hardcore primitivists I've met were |
| 111 | 1 | I think it have a wrong view on mankind. |
| 112 | 1 | I see anarchism as a part of socialism.. Or an important aspect of socialism.. NOT capitalism!! |
| 113 | 1 | I feel it's unnecessarily divisive. |
| 114 | 1 | I don't consider Anarcho-Capitalism to be a form of anarchism. All the others, while I may disagree with some of them (ex. Insurrectionary anarchism, Primitivism, CrimethInc, and Lifestyle anarchism), aren't trends I'm too worried about being problematic to the overall anarchist movement at this time. Sectarianism is my biggest concern. Those who would exclude anarchists and their sympathizers because of class or other background differences are also harmful. Most of us are doing something h |
| 115 | 1 | Factionism is infantile -- an intellectual form of tribalism. We need to grow up and recognise that anarchism embraces pluralism, just as life embraces pluralism. To say that there is one best form of anarchism is not only doctrinarian, but it is also to say that there is one best form of life. Life is diversity and growth. |
| 116 | 1 | I think Platformists (in my experience in UK) act in a very manipulative way. They are detrimental to projects other Anarchists might work on as well. I find it hard to trust them. Insurrectionists, primos and lifestylists put forward simplistic and misjudged Anarchist ideas that are initially appealing to some folks (inc me in my younger days!), but lead nowhere. This means potentially good comrades get lost and also other people are put off Anarchism just from their initial encounters wi |
| 117 | 1 | Because all these systems require some form of hierarchy to exist. Every one of them puts some restriction(s) on interactions between individuals. This usually manifests itself in the economic sector. As such, they confuse the issue when trying to explain anarchy to statists. |
| 118 | 1 | Capitalism and anarchism don't seem to mesh well together |
| 119 | 1 | Any excessive "you're doing it wrong" and other preaching about the "right way" will only drive away people who may make very valid contributions to the movement, if there is a movement. It's also the early shoots of authoritarianism and most sectarian comments are based on ignorance about that which they are criticising. |
| 120 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism cant be capitalism at all, since capitalism is a power structure with power centered at the top. |
| 121 | 1 | Divorced from class struggle |
| 122 | 1 | As an example, let us say an anarchist revolution happens tomorrow, dominated by two factions. Once faction is broadly anarcho-communist, the other is broadly anarcho-capitalist, and in the aftermath of the overthrow of the state they both set up there respective preferred organisations. If ether side uses coercion to force the other into there economic order, they are no longer anarchists, one group would be using violence to hammer another into a form it would not adopt of its own free choice. |
| 123 | 1 | Things that are unnecessary should not be practiced. |
| 124 | 1 | I don't think politics should be used or violence strictly endorsed unless it's in self-defense once the alternatives to the state are set up but some of the insurrectionists just seem to want blind violence to me. For a good critcism on it I recommend "A Critique of Anarchist Communism" by Ken Knudson, specifically the chapter Revolution: The Road to Freedom? |
| 125 | 1 | Well, capitalism always sucks. Anarcho-communism sounds like absurd for me, and I don't agree with some postulates. Primitivism isn't always wrong, but I don't feel comfortable with that. (Did we take such a long journey, as a humanity, just to make a huge step backward now? I'm not saying, everything modern is good. I'm just saying, not everything modern is bad.) About sectarianism... Who matched it with anarchism?! |
| 126 | 1 | Collectivism == Totalitarianism |
| 127 | 1 | Insurrectionary particularly - I think they have a fundamentally wrong idea on taking power and give anarchists a bad name. |
| 128 | 1 | Anarchism, for me, is fundamentally collectivist and anti-capitalist. If you are an individualist and/or a capitalist, that is not anarchism at all, at all. It is inconsistent with the historical and philosophical roots of anarchism. Anarchism should also be activism, not a lifestyle. Many potential anarchist supporters are turned off by smelly, dumpster-diving youth. While I am a vegetarian, anarchist events that provide only vegetarian and recovered food turns a lot of people off. I have ki |
| 129 | 1 | In my opinion, anarchism should be about people working together to improve their lives outside the system, and individualism undermines this by emphasizing the moral worth of the individual as opposed to the moral worth of the group. I think that instead of denouncing the problems modernity has caused, primitivists should try to solve them. I disagree with anarcho-capitalism because, in any form of capitalism, people fall through the cracks. |
| 130 | 1 | ...no one thinks he's more important than himself... |
| 131 | 1 | As I consider anarchism to be part of the left (the socialist ideas), and having a connection with the laboures/workeres. And being anti-capitalist, it can never be connected with anarcho-capitalism. And anarchism is not a lifestyle ideologi. |
| 132 | 1 | It's important to overcome nostalgia for a state of nature and state of capital that never was. |
| 133 | 1 | I think it is possible to make a point more effectively with calm, respectful give and take conversation, rather than name-calling and hyperactivity. "Attract bees with honey." |
| 134 | 1 | The problem with both individualistic and anarcho-capitalist anarchisms is their inability to engage with "anarchism" itself, as a process of removing historical ownership of minds and bodies. To continue with individualism fails to anarchize to such an extent that it questions historical control via subject-producing technologies where anarcho-capitalism is merely the nihilistic hardcore of the libertarian right. |
| 135 | 1 | Because oppression still rules the world. |
| 136 | 1 | An-caps are a living oxymoron and they're all over the place where I live. Altho I realize they are a much smaller milieu than they seem-- they're mostly rich kids who talk about Austrian Econ on the interwebs-- they don't seem to be immersed in any struggle, at least not in my neck of the woods. Christian Anarchism is something I try to ignore. I have no words to make this seem Ok. It's prolly not. Sectarianism is our biggest problem in the anarchist community, imho. Insurrectionary ana |
| 137 | 1 | I find the more entrenched people are in anarchism the less they can relate to people outside those communities and the more isolated those communities become. |
| 138 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is a trend which totally negates the whole point of anarchism. The same goes for national-anarchism |
| 139 | 1 | Academic Anarchism is simply the worst thing to happen to anarchism since the creations of governments. |
| 140 | 1 | I believe that both capitalism and organized religion inherently create classes between people. |
| 141 | 1 | IA: Not the actual trend, but possibly the uber-militant parody that exists on the internet. Academic Anarchism: This makes no sense. Marxists tried fleeing from the struggle to carve out a comfortable niche as academics, and now anarchists are doing it. If academia is really your calling, then go for it, but there appears to be a trend towards thinking that an academic position somehow puts you in a better place to advance the class struggle. Not to mention that I would gladly accept the |
| 142 | 1 | sort of unclear on what "problematic", "trend" and "in anarchism" are supposed to mean exactly here. for in stance, to me, capitalists and christians are not anarchists or "in anarchism". period. ever. not only theoretically but based on how minimally they interact with the actual anarchist milieu-network. then, a lot of these are not homogenous units, and a lot of the tendencies these terms are meant to capture contain a mixture of elements that i find myself opposed to or in agreement with. or |
| 143 | 1 | You do not mention materialism. It is basic to socialist/anarchist philosophy. |
| 144 | 1 | Anarchism is an ideal, and not an ideal of chaos, but an ideal that states that one doesn't have to live under the rule of another's thumb. The ideal is that each person would have ultimate liberties, and ultimate responsibility for themselves, with a care for others if that's what they want, or an indifference, or a hostility even. I personally believe that the best goal of anarchism, and one I will probably not see in my lifetime, nor my children in theirs or their children in theirs, is p |
| 145 | 1 | money |
| 146 | 1 | Not enough emphasis on the importance of intersecting identities. |
| 147 | 1 | The idea that we need to rid society of technology and return to "our roots" is so far gone and impossible. Anti-civ? I mean really? You can't roll back to that point in human history and even if you did it would happen all over again. |
| 148 | 1 | I consider post-anarchism to be a useless critique that doesn't relate to ordinary people, at least in the sense of being communicable, or offer ideas that would help people. I consider lifestyle anarchism to be a problem because there are many people who call themselves anarchists that seem to be escaping rather than challenging (and encouraging) systems of power. I think it just goes along with the attributing the anarchist movement with the punk subculture, which I feel is a major issue i |
| 149 | 1 | There is no such thing as anarcho-capitalism. The post-anarchists are too fond of talk. And primitivism's ideal is either unattainable or immoral (requiring mass murder). |
| 150 | 1 | capital it fails us now |
| 151 | 1 | There's the photographers and the committed enthusiasts, then there's the cross-processing hipsters swinging their Holgas and Digital Rebels around like big square penises. The same applies to anarchism - there's the lifers, the committed anarchists, then there's the dinner party "I'm all for change, let's take it to the streets, but not until this weekend I've got two shifts at the Burger Barn this week" anarchists. |
| 152 | 1 | Non-aggression/property is the basis of rational ethics. |
| 153 | 1 | Primitism- we as a developed society are too far gone to turn back to the primitive nature of ourselves and the world. We must use our knowledge over the past centuries to aid in the peaceful cooperation between people and the earth, not just go back to the very basics of everything and disregard the useful knowledge, history, technology, medication, etc... we have come to know and use lifestyle anarchism- anarchism is about changing the system. i think those who fall out of society and go li |
| 154 | 1 | I find platformism problematic because I believe there are many different solutions to the problems in society today. I believe it is up to many different groups of people to figure them out and make them happen. I also find sectarianism problematic because to me it assumes knowing the perfect answer or solution, almost like platformism. I think it is important for anarchists to be able to communicate and work with many different types of people, but not in ways that compromise their beliefs. |
| 155 | 1 | I find that primitivism is degrading to all of the achievements mankind has made as a whole and i find anarcho-capitalism to be highly hypocritical |
| 156 | 1 | With anarcho-capitalism, while I try and try and TRY to understand it, I just cannot wrap my head around how a society still based in a free-market economy can truly lead to the sort of freedom and liberation that my view of anarchism is so based in. To me, anarchism is about abolishing the hierarchies that are so inherent in a free-market economy (which is a major root of class, after all!) and replacing them with an egalitarian, collectivist society. |
| 157 | 1 | In the next question i mark which tendencies I don't consider anarchist, so i won't bother with calling them problematic trends in anarchism. While I do consider both insurrectionary and academic anarchism genuinely anarchist, I do on the other hand see them as problematic. Insurrectionary anarchism has done a lot to isolate the anarcist movement and for an instance it was due to insurrectionary anarchist actions during a mass demonstration on december the 12th in Copenhagen that the police whe |
| 158 | 1 | Though I don't think an anarchist "should" be an atheist, I think a connection to the Christian church is very self-defeating. Likewise, Anarcho-Capitalism is nearly an oxymoron. |
| 159 | 1 | Capitalism's fundamental flaws if anything would be exacerbated without ANY democratic control (anarcho-capitalism). Primitivism not only is undesirable to me but could not happen without a massive depopulation. It fails to understand technology is neutral, the profit motive is it's current problem. I vouch for social anarchism because I believe humans are better off through cooperation. Not only that but attitudes bred by an individualistic society could serve to hold one another back. |
| 160 | 1 | I welcome many different kinds of anarchists to the table, and I think sectarianism is a bad thing generally. However, I do have some qualms about primitivism. I also abhor National-"Anarchism." As far as academic and post-anarchism, while I don't think they're directly harmful, I don't see that they contribute much to the anarchism of the everyday that I embrace--the tradition that Colin Ward's Anarchy in Action embodies. |
| 161 | 1 | The fascination of anarchism to adhere to leftist ideology, without proper critique, combined with the rise of individualism during the 20th century has lead to anarchism being seen as derided and irrelevant. Cultural hegemony still holds sway and until that is properly addressed we will never move forward. |
| 162 | 1 | Both Platformism and Anarcho-syndicalism represent a leftist political tendency. In places like North America, the left is a widely discredited wing of politics; These tendencies in Anarchism therefore seem culturally irrelevant and socially impotent. Also, I believe Anarchism's goals should reach beyond workplace struggles which work within a framework of the wage system and of industrialized culture. Academic and Lifestyle tendencies both reflect class privilege, because while the latter t |
| 163 | 1 | While mutualism and agorism doesn't necessarily bother me, AnCap does bother me, I don't find that its proponents oppose hierarchy, only government restriction on markets. And as for sectarianism, I agree with the idea of working in affinities, and free association, but constantly tearing ourselves into smaller tendencies and not building any collective power whatsoever injures us. |
| 164 | 1 | No, rather not thanks |
| 165 | 1 | Primitivism is untenable at best and racist at worst. Platformism and Anarcho Synodicalism are relics of the past. Anarcho capitalism, crimethinc individualist anarchisms are reactionary and don't deserve to called anarchism. Academic anarchism is useless. |
| 166 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is flatly disconnected from grassroot suffering/reality and clearly oppose popular democracy. They are the Neoliberal screwed thought we are fighting. I explain the other above, but I might add: Various attempts of revolutions in human history show the importance for the people of knowing clearly the society they want to install instead of the current situation, otherwise the most dominant and violent "revolutionaries" become the new system (as portrayed in The Animal Farm |
| 167 | 1 | Each group is not objectively 'correct', but I believe each brings something of value to the collective table. |
| 168 | 1 | Now, it doesn't leave very much, does it? It is not that I am oppose to them particularly, I just think they start being problematic when they become dogmatic. And in my experience, even though I might embody, practice, identify with some practices of primitivism, I have critiques of those whom take it as The Right Thing To Do. I am not familiar with Insurrectionary anarchism. |
| 169 | 1 | Very little has ever succeded without co-operation to common goals. |
| 170 | 1 | Liberation of the group is more important than liberation of the individual. |
| 171 | 1 | The state is a state is a state no matter what window dressing you put on it. |
| 172 | 1 | Questions like "Do you think anarchists should be atheists?" which don't offer the answer "No." |
| 173 | 1 | Both Christian and Socialist anarchism are based on old long out dated ideals. Their is simply no excuse for them in this age. And these two factions seem to be growing. |
| 174 | 1 | oxymoronic and moronic |
| 175 | 1 | We believe we have the answer and try to evangelize from the point of view of a rock star instead of working with our friends and neighbors as they are. This translates in our anarchist community as well. |
| 176 | 1 | Primitivism is the only one which really bothers me a bit, although I certainly agree with the need for an environmental outlook. It just seems like once you go from being generally "green" to a "primitivist" your position becomes much more radical and I think it can lead to denying the validity of others (valid) lifestyles. |
| 177 | 1 | Dividing "anarchy" into different sects accomplishes nothing. |
| 178 | 1 | The three that I checked off- academic, capitalist and christian anarchism are all attempts to compromise anarchism, the only anti-authoritarian ideology I'm aware of, with thoroughly authoritarian institutions; the university, the capitalist economy and christianity. I didn't check off crimethinc, primitivism, lifestyle anarchism and anarcho-syndicalism but there are major problems with them. While primitivism, crimethinc and lifestyle anarchism lack any kind of class analysis and are at tim |
| 179 | 1 | blatant disregard for the idea of avoiding human hierarchies. |
| 180 | 1 | Hard to find a balance. Also I don't believe anarchism tied to traditional/mainstream ideas such as religion and mainstream education systems, among other things, will lead to any significant change or even moral consistency. |
| 181 | 1 | I'm not informed enough to answer about all of them, but here's about two. Primitivism: because I don't see how it could prevent long-term extinction or outcompete a technically capable state. All kinds of religious anarchism: at least with regard to those who worship gods, I just don't understand how they manage to accommodate anarchism and belief in natural authorities in the same mind. It seems self-contradictory to me. |
| 182 | 1 | Primitivism because it has become hella dogmatic Platformism because it has always been hella dogmatic Academic anarchism because it is elitist Lifestyle anarchism because it shirks revolutionary struggle Anarcho-capitalism because non-anarchists might get the idea that capitalism is liberatory Sectarianism because it bring out the douchebags in all the different orientation |
| 183 | 1 | To me anarchism is the flourishing of multiple ideas and ways of living, and the coexistence of these ideas and ways of living in accordance with basic libertarian socialist principles. Anarchism is a broad church. |
| 184 | 1 | Firstly, I don't even consider "Anarcho"-Capitalists to be Anarchists but, rather, ultra liberals. Secondly, sectarianism undermines anarchist believes and practice in whole as it does not contribute any new perspective but fights for a purity of ideas, a feature which seems to be orthodox communist. |
| 185 | 1 | Any trend towards capitalism is problematic. |
| 186 | 1 | I want a stateless society in which primitivsts, anarcho-syndicalists, anarcho-communists, mutualists, ancaps, and everyone else can experiment. I'm troubled only by aggressive violence, and I worry that insurrectionists could (a) be tempted to engage in aggressive violence and (b) could make the strategic error of solidifying the public's identification of anarchism with aggressive violence. |
| 187 | 1 | Anarchism is a problem. Individualism is anarchism. |
| 188 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism are especially a threat to our world, as they have huge power and influence on government. I feel theses guys have a bright future in our neoliberal state. The rise of anarcho-capitalism means the fall of humanity, the disappearance of communities. |
| 189 | 1 | Most anarchist movements we see today usually revolve around community centers and community gardens. while the is fine for early movements it seems that there has been some trouble moving beyond this. this projects an image of primitivism amongst the general public who may have difficulty trying to accept a life free of control if it meant they would have to live like that. Same goes for the individualist who live extreme lives of anarchism and usually end up living in the woods by themselves. |
| 190 | 1 | They remove anarchism from its relationship to the population at large, and anarcho-capitalism isn't anarchism at all - it has no care for social justice. |
| 191 | 1 | too many factions, self-interest...we should be united in one goal... |
| 192 | 1 | I don't like individualist anarchism as for me anarchism is all about the mutual aid and solidarity! You can't fight oppression and imagine a better world with individualism. Individualism is an aspect of industrialism and capitalism and I don't find it an attractive quality. I find religious anarchy problematic as I oppose all hierarchy and Christianity in particular has been very prejudiced esp in terms of sexism and homophobia. |
| 193 | 1 | In the sense that many who identify as such, do so only because their friends do and have no desire to understand it. It's mostly why the Anarchist stigma/taboo prevails to this day. Fuck these fucks...right in the fuckin ear, please. |
| 194 | 1 | I think it is troublesome that green anarchists are lumped in with primitivists. |
| 195 | 1 | A radical shift in society is not going to happen. Small gains can build upon each other to liberalize society generally, but the focus has to be on educating people regarding anarchist values when they are young or else they are lost for life to a belief in not just the state, but their own static condition. |
| 196 | 1 | Why does this question have different options than the others? Are we not supposed to think that Green Anarchism is problematic? I find primitivism to be wholly unrealistic and unproductive, and platformism to be overly collectivist. |
| 197 | 1 | I don't see these as the basis for promoting revolutionary transformation and self-activity. In terms of Primitivism, Christian Anarchism and "Anarcho-capitalism" I would see these as entirely reactionary ideas that social progressives should criticise and actively oppose. Lifestyle anarchism and crimethinc collective promote a very introspective form of anarchist practice, e.g. "drop out" culture, that cuts off our movement from the wider working class. |
| 198 | 1 | There's a huge issue with semantics when you really get into it and if you want to be consistent. Also, i do agree one should know about economics before attributing to a political and loosely economic system. I'd like to embrace the idea of pluralism if that's possible. |
| 199 | 1 | I know a little but never really explored the other versions of anarchy |
| 200 | 1 | One of the main problems in contemporary anarchism is it's complete inabilty to seperate itself from its historic yearnings and make itself relevant outside of specific activist communities. It's overly wedded to dogmatism, refuses to seek out trends and strands that may espouse principals that could be seen as building blocks to a movement, and hides away in obtuse online arguments, or thinking flogging badly designed and unreadabe zines at marches is outreach to the masses. |
| 201 | 1 | In my opinion, lifestyle anarchism (and crimethinc) is only feasible when one comes from a position of social privilege, as most working class people are not able to "drop out" of capitalist culture. Consequently, this tactic amounts to parasitism. "Anarcho-capitalism" is not feasible either because the capitalist mode of production necessitates a state mechanism in order to function. Insurrectionary anarchism seems counter-productive to me (in most cases) because it doesn't require a mass |
| 202 | 1 | for my understanding all forms of anarchism should have nothing to do with capitalism |
| 203 | 1 | all those forces reflect an aspect of society or are major dividers within the movement |
| 204 | 1 | Focus on building a closed clique, rather than an open and diverse movement. Lack of serious concern for strategy. |
| 205 | 1 | It's a problem of attitud, not a problem of what people thinks |
| 206 | 1 | we create not need rifts and create problems with people who are not |
| 207 | 1 | Primitivism is not a valid ideology and has no solution in the "real" sense. Also, insurrectionarism is quite open to provocations... I think without having -at least to some sense- people's support, insurrection will never work. Sectarianism is a way for authoritarians not for anarchists. |
| 208 | 1 | Any violence against the state, although morally justified, is a tactical error. The battle isn't in the world, its in the hearts and minds of those who are victims of the state. Because of propaganda any violence done against the rulers makes insurrectionists out to be bad guys. Only nonviolent means can show that the state is violent. Christianity demands complete submission to an incredibly powerful being who is exempt from all moral rules that apply to human beings. Any criticism or q |
| 209 | 1 | Creates a lot of confussion about anarchist strategic objetives |
| 210 | 1 | Primitivism is not anarchism. It advocates a society without a state, but not an equal society - humans are still unequal by birth, and tribal structures are tolerated. Further, it attempts to anthropomorphize "nature" and "the planet", creating paradoxes like "climate justice" -- what is justice for a climate? Can a climate perceive justice? As such, it simply serves to distract the anarchist movement at large from seeking justice for humans and other sentients. Capitalism and christianity a |
| 211 | 1 | Many of these are not even socialist outlooks. Some are individualist, and rherefore liberal. |
| 212 | 1 | Anarchism is, and always has been, a movement based in the working class with the class struggle as its central point. Anything that does not recognize and prioritize the class struggle can hardly be called anarchist in my opinion. |
| 213 | 1 | They have nothing to do with political anarchism and therefore all of the above are clearly working directly against the spreading of the anarchist message. |
| 214 | 1 | Platformism is irrelevant not only to the present condition but since its first manifested. Why? Synthesizing anarchy with bureaucratic organizationalism is absurd and in no way can stimulate individual liberation, which is the precondition for any liberated society. Christian Anarchism? Too much pacifist bullshit. If you live in third-world, pacifism only works for liberal and middle-class minded people. Academic Anarchism? They are just too institutionalised and oftenly do not realise |
| 215 | 1 | They carry the seed of oppression. |
| 216 | 1 | not philosophically grounded, just reactionary |
| 217 | 1 | Our history shows clearly that if we wish to maintain a clear class line against the enemy that we have to have coherent tactics and strategies, and be organised in a horizontal libertarian fashion in order to advance our cause more effectively and root it in working class struggle. |
| 218 | 1 | Sectarianism prevents the uniting of anarchist thought against the state and ensures the continued fractured nature of anarchist. CrimethInc shows lack of respect for humanity hidden behind theories of anti-authoritarianism. |
| 219 | 1 | Haven't heard of most of those; I live in a small town and I do not know many anarchists. |
| 220 | 1 | I am a firm believer in atheist, rationality, progress, utopia, working-class revolt. Oh and I work in the academy writing on dialectical anarchism, to that explains the last one. |
| 221 | 1 | The "anarchist" that exists only to smash windows and not do any community organizing is the caricature that William Randolph Hearst created to smear anarchists. All these current "anarchists" do is exacerbate friction with the police and get themselves arrested and the people close to them in their social circles harassed by the police, hampering their work. Call it nihilism, but don't call it anarchism. |
| 222 | 1 | I have a problem with a lot of the above, however, it is lifestyle anarchism which I find most problematic. I take it seriously as a necessary part of any anarchist philosophy that we all need to act as anarchists, if you will, in everyday life. However, I find it extremely problematic when lifestyle anarchists refuse to participate in any kind of direct action/insurrectionary action short of the anarchist revolution because they don't think it's radical or productive enough or they give some |
| 223 | 1 | primitivist's are a survivalist aspect of extreme libertarianism, just selfish and dour really, rather anti-human, indeed anti-life; post-modernism is an elite imposed tool to defang revolt via the ammorality of 'nothing is true', 'everything is relative' (all smacks of creationist view of science, 'it is just a theory'); lifestyle anarchism, agent of complacent smug insular me-ism, aids and abets state sidelining of activism; capitalism a metastasising cancer, 'grow or die' meaning 'grow u |
| 224 | 1 | Anarcho-Socialists and Syndicalists seem to Refuse to accept the validity of legitimate property rights stemming from the principle of self-ownership. The fundamental PRIVATE property right. If someone argues that individuals do not own themselves as their own private property, than they are not in favor of a free society, whether they personally define it as "anarchist" or not. "I define anarchist society as one where there is no legal possibility for coercive aggression against the perso |
| 225 | 1 | not too sure, just don't like the idea(s) of (in) them |
| 226 | 1 | They won't give up their power without a fight. |
| 227 | 1 | Most of the trends I chose are ones that I have some familiarity with and am aware that they are alienating and / or reinforce alienating sterotypes with regard to the majority of ordinary working people. They might critique the current system but have no strategy for bringing together the vast majority of people in order to change it. (I'm not saying anarcho-communists, syndicalists, platformists have all the answers but their ideas have some potential.) Other trends such as Primitivism and Ana |
| 228 | 1 | There should be unity. |
| 229 | 1 | These simultaneously deceive the public about what anarchism is, and are abysmally poor strategies. |
| 230 | 1 | The Syndicalists are against capitalism first, and then they are against the state. I am simply against the state. They tend to oppose globalization and they tend to want more government regulations. Although there are some syndicalists out there who are tolerable. |
| 231 | 1 | I am an ethical and methodological individualist. I believe the human race is composed of sovereign individuals acting on their own preferences at all time. The goal of anarcho-capitalism is to maximize utility by allowing individuals to realize these preferences in the most efficient, non-violent way possible. I am totally in support of hierarchical organization as long as it is consensual. Anarchism, to me, means nothing more than the absence of a state. |
| 232 | 1 | The biggest problem is sectarianism and the games of 'you are not a real anarchist' which many seem to like to play. The chief example being the (poorly named) anarcho-capitalism, which if it is capitalist is not anarchist, but often is not capitalist (some ancaps are capitalist and tend to try and justify existing power structures and the elite) |
| 233 | 1 | Black bloc at protests gives the authorities the excuse they want to move people along. It also alows for easy infiltration by governemtn agents into protest groups without the person invovled to be identified easily. |
| 234 | 1 | in the words of chomsky: primitivism means mass genocide and to me anarcho-capitalism is a joke, i follow the motto of the great revolution: liberté égalité fraternité ou la mort. |
| 235 | 1 | Opposition to domination, power, and death-culture, I believe, requires explicitly challenging the systems of capitalism and industrialism, as well as more traditional anarchist bugbears. It also requires that people of various orientations be able to communicate, coordinate, learn from each other, and collaborate. It requires organization, not just individualist conscious-consumer (or anti-consumer) type politics. |
| 236 | 1 | Sowing confusion and atomization by simple misnomers. |
| 237 | 1 | - cultural orientation emphasizing thought crimes like racism / sexism / etc. - fixation on counterculture status, i.e. pissing squares off (heh) - ideological conformity (vis a vis platformism), inability to unite under a big tent and emphasize the critical issues. Focus on small disagreements. |
| 238 | 1 | I don't believe they're Anarchism. |
| 239 | 1 | anarchists being counterproductive (from my point of view) due to braindead violence, and yes, there is such a thing going on. I do as well find religion troubeling and in my dream community there would be non but in the broken world we're in i think it might be more harm then good to dismiss all religion. |
| 240 | 1 | These either tend to go in really nasty directions in terms of views (primitivism, anarch-cap, etc) or lessen the effectiveness of the broader anarchist movement (insurrectionary, sectarianism) |
| 241 | 1 | Anarchism as some sort of lifestyle instead of a simple analysis of class-society and how the working-class might destroy it basically disarms all the ideas within anarchism that could be used as weapon of the working-class to protect themselves and eventually dismantle capital. Lifestyle anarchism and crimethinc take the ideas of anarchism out of the hands of workers, and places them into the hands of a microscopic sub-culture with no influence outside of 20 something hipster fucks. The sound |
| 242 | 1 | community is important - obviously everyone shouldn't be the same or have to think the same way, but it's best if we can get along. practical? probably not, but I wish everyone would aim for this in our own lives. not everyone will. what I think doesn't matter all that much in reality. :) |
| 243 | 1 | The ideals of these off shoots just cause problems for the entire movement. |
| 244 | 1 | It's not so much insurrectionary anarchism that is problematic, but so-called insurrectionists that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Very "scene" oriented with no analysis. |
| 245 | 1 | I live in a foreign country (Turkey) where English is not the first language. I participate in the larger political actions, because those are accessible. I would likewise love to participate in forms of Anarchist community, but it has been difficult to find in 5 years here. This might be a common problem plaguing expatriates or the international movement, or, it might be an indication that I'm looking in the wrong places. Still, this seems to be a problem here. |
| 246 | 1 | Sectarianism distracts from the struggle and makes people get caught up in pointless, unending and self-perpetuating squabbling. I'd like to think that I have more in common and far less in difference with a fellow anarchist with a different analysis or approach than I have with a capitalist or fascist. |
| 247 | 1 | Everything is 'problematic', but I would say it is those trends in anarchism that are heavily infused with a kind of theology, apocalypse or dystopia that are particularly philosophically and politically suspect. |
| 248 | 1 | I think the problematic trend is that 99% of people are statists--OK, that's not really a trend. I'm not worried about too many of the wrong kind of anti-statist at the moment. Not being familiar with all the above flavors, I would be concerned about any that advocate violence against persons. |
| 249 | 1 | I don't feel that any of them offer a preferable alternative to the current world. |
| 250 | 1 | sectarianism is the worst because first thing's first: peace. |
| 251 | 1 | I do not believe capitalist ideology, in good conscience, can be included the anarchist tradition. I also feel that sectarianism is very harmful to the movement. |
| 252 | 1 | I don't think that anarcho-capitalists are anarchists, period. It bothers me that they want to call themselves as such when they have nothing in common with the rest of anarchism. Come on, an-archy = without hierarchy. How can an inherently hierarchical system like capitalism POSSIBLY be construed as anarchistic? Sectarianism because everyone is stuck in their microscopic little worlds and doesn't realize that jerks and people one doesn't like would exist even in some imaginary utopia, so it' |
| 253 | 1 | righteous defense of the faith more akin to christian schismatics |
| 254 | 1 | Capitalism and Religion are both forms of domination and oppression and are not compatible with anarchism's goal of liberation. Lifestyle and individualist anarchism both perpetuate some of the central problems of capitalism since they focus on a form of freedom that is 1) impossible and undesirable, since we can never be free from others nor should we want to be and 2) practical only insofar that we oppress others and force them to produce for us. |
| 255 | 1 | Too much PC intolerance, too much living in the past |
| 256 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism and Primitivism stem from alienated views of human society. |
| 257 | 1 | I personally don't care what somebody thinks will work best for a free/anarchist society. I feel that we will all learn through struggle and experience which orientations are the most complementary to an anarchist society. Many of these types of organization may work simultaneously without hindering one another. I don't see why so many anarchists fight over the best or right way to do it. Situations, conditions, and context are perpetually changing and many or one may be the best at any give |
| 258 | 1 | I feel the job of anarchists is not to convince others of anything, but to simply live their lives in the best way they see fit. I do not believe this should involve going out of one's way to convert or harm anyone. |
| 259 | 1 | Alienating |
| 260 | 1 | People can use what ever label they want to describe themselves, but individualists do not fit within the anarchist tradition. Anarchism is about human liberation, not only from government but from poverty, irrationality and exploitation. |
| 261 | 1 | They are capitalist :( |
| 262 | 1 | oh, it's so long a discussion |
| 263 | 1 | I've never met anyone or anything labeled anarcho-capitalism, but a quick google search leaves it sounding as if, if it ever gained popularity, it is ripe for libertarian and corporate co-option and exploitation, possibly to a greater degree than currently feasible with 'rugged individualism' and the bastardization of objectivism. |
| 264 | 1 | these, more than others, divide the movement and cause people to stagnate on issues of what is the best/most correct goals on anarchism. Istead of taking actions that avdance that movement in directions that are necessary for any type of anarchist community/communities to be possible. |
| 265 | 1 | Academic anarchism is only useful if it is accessible, not in itself. CrimethInc is poor literature and in a lot of ways is white/middle class centric. |
| 266 | 1 | CrimethIncers tend to just write poems, anarcho-capitalists embrace the most damaging part of the system. |
| 267 | 1 | Most anarchists I meet, are anarchists because they are angry at their parents, or are angry with a system they don't understand. Most are completely unwilling to explore the issues that make them angry, or attempt to do anything but complain and destroy property. It really takes credibility away from serious anarchism, in my opinion. |
| 268 | 1 | To put it as simply as possible, the reason I find anarcho-capitalism to be a problematic trend in anarchism today is because it deliberately misleads members of the working class into combating their own interests. Anarcho-capitalists will, often with great success, present themselves as being very lucid, logical and easy to understand; in reality, they, by and large, merely over-simplify issues ("The reason for recessions is the Federal Reserve", "inflation occurs because we aren't on the gold |
| 269 | 1 | The only rational form or anarchism is one that recognize the non-aggresion principle and private property right. |
| 270 | 1 | Your survey is incorrect in including all sorts of middle class nonsense under the heading "anarchist". I also have no idea what "sectarian" anarchism would be. |
| 271 | 1 | too much thinking and reading and too little doing things that SHOW what anarchy is about. |
| 272 | 1 | Primitivism has a tendency to disregard working class issues and industrialism. Anarcho-Capitalism has a tendency to disregard institutionalized forms of oppression, i.e. racism, sexism, wage slavery, etc. Sectarianism ... well, the only victor in a fight between anarchists is the State. |
| 273 | 1 | Anything that tries to place anarchism outside of class struggle is not, by definition, anarchism. However, even within the class struggle milieu there are trends which have tendencies to be anti-working class. An example would be certain trends within neo-platformism which reject internationalism and support (however critically) national liberation movements which are always class collaborationist. This is not inherent in the platform or platformism, only a trend within certain groups associa |
| 274 | 1 | I dont think that many people actually identify with any of these labels. I think they are more often used pejoratively, and thus have a largely negative image in my mind. When i see these labels i think of the worst, most puritanical, reified aspects, the anthropomorphic, the antisocial, the self-important, delusional and the masturbatory aspects within the anarchist project. but there is definitely useful insight found about different aspect of life and struggle found under each of those banne |
| 275 | 1 | Anarchism requires a mass movement in order to succeed. Individualism seems to be somewhat against a mass movement. Primitivism is the stupidest, privileged, insane idea ever conceived. Try telling a single mother living paycheck to paycheck to go live in the woods. Primitivists need to grow the fuck up. Insurrectionary anarchism cannot succeed on its own without some sort of mass worker movement, history has clearly shown that. Post-anarchism, do you mean post modernism? I think Chomsk |
| 276 | 1 | I cannot support insurrectionary anarchism on the grounds that I will not support violence from anyone except in cases of direct self-defence and free citizen's militias or defence associations. Platformism is to me too restrictive. Also, I have trouble with the idea of killing anyone in a "revolution" - Change will come peacefully, or there will be more of the same. CrimethInc is an incredibly glossy organization that I find myself unable to understand as anything more than a group of qua |
| 277 | 1 | Many christian anarchists envision an anarchist society only insofar as a large centralized government is concerned. They don't seem to have a problem with authoritarian family/gender relationships. The sectarianism of the movement seems silly to me - we're so far away from anything resembling anarchy that we can have debates about the exact nature of property/aggression/etc later - there's so much that we agree on compared to statists, we can surely form a common ground. |
| 278 | 1 | They cause factions and detract from the struggle/fight that we face daily. We need to organise collectively and take action. Enough armchair anarchists! |
| 279 | 1 | Academic anarchism: (despite this being where I may be heading!) too many egos. Too many politics within academia. Too many anarchists who make money due to being anarchists. When this political influence could be better utilised bringing down this current system instead of backbiting from their ivory towers. Lifestyle anarchism: personal lifestyles and personal choices do not equal social change. To claim that these are political moves/statements is dishonest, ineffectual and leaves real peo |
| 280 | 1 | I find the anti-organizational sentiment in these strands most problematic. |
| 281 | 1 | Those trends that tend towards individualism rather than collectivism |
| 282 | 1 | If there is any hopelessly utopian aspect of anarchism, it is a denial of the finitude of the planet's carrying capacity. The recent recognition of the need to live within those limits should lead us to rethink all of the assumptions that are responsible for our destruction of the biological basis for our own existence. Why would we assume that anarchism (or any ideology) could adequately address this reality if it was constructed prior to this recognition? To do so would be unusually conservati |
| 283 | 1 | If it doesn't question the core of all of humanity's ills (i.e. Civilization) then it is bankrupt. |
| 284 | 1 | There is nothing inherently wrong with lifestyle anarchism, but if it eclipses positive efforts to destroy authority then it becomes a distraction. I think that there are a lot of people who would be more inclined to act in an anti-authoritarian manner if they were better exposed to anarchism. I also feel that communiques and actions often have more of an "internal memo" feel to them, than they seem like real attempts to engage the wider public using language and actions they would understand |
| 285 | 1 | The "anarchist" scene is incredibly fractured. To the point that I think that if any meaningful change is going to come from a single label (the probabilities of this are another story), it's not going to come from "anarchism". Individualism, in my opinion, stands up to scrutiny just as well as Solipsism, and for the same reason. Primitivism, in my opinion, ignores some of the very few things that we can actually consider to be part of human nature. Crimethinc, in my opinion, encourages |
| 286 | 1 | if we're all working to the same goal, I don't see a problem with schools of thought. |
| 287 | 1 | internets has divided us and made us weaker. i find little in common with anarcho-capitalists i've met. |
| 288 | 1 | I don't particularly care what someones particular beliefs are - I have worked primarily in groups where I felt isolated as far as my views on anarchism, and that has been fine. What does bug me is when people start becoming dogmatic about whatever particular point of view they hold. In general, based upon my personal beliefs, I tend to get most annoyed with platformists and anarcho-syndicalists, but that doesn't mean that I don't like and respect many people that would describe themselves as su |
| 289 | 1 | Any dogmatic: Because dogmatic people cannot listen to each other. I think that Individualism and Primitivism, if they are applied radically, are too far away from the real wolrd, so, i think that its impossible to apply these trends. But, we can inspirate ourselves from them, like the other, except Anarcho-Capitalist: Because any kind of capiltalism is not a solution. |
| 290 | 1 | I am unfamiliar with most of your terms. |
| 291 | 1 | It distracts from the main goal - leaving other people alone if they want to be left alone, accepting their opinions and views when they don't threaten yours. |
| 292 | 1 | Anarchism is the absence of an established monopoly on the use of violence. This it logically follows that we own our labor and we thus own property. Schools that seek to abolish private property are replacing the violence of the state with the violence of the mob. |
| 293 | 1 | Not true anarchism. |
| 294 | 1 | Both of those selected are including capitalism as a part of a plausible anarchy which may lead people to frauding others. An anarchy is best without any kind of capital, since it wont be social classes arriving from a problem like that. |
| 295 | 1 | the things that i struggle with are all the young people in the states reading this insurrectionist babel, then not doing anything with it but talking, or breaking a window. there is a sad tendency for young folks to fear participation as organizers, so they may wish for change but they do little to achieve their visions. i wish that i could figure out how to more effectively combat this malaise. |
| 296 | 1 | Individualism/collectivism is often a false dichotomy. Primitivism is dependent on genocide/mass death to work. CrimethInc lacks historical perspective. Anarcho-capitalism is not anarchism. Anarchism is anti-capitalism, by definition. Whoever put those two words together did not understand what they mean in relation to one another. Christian anarchism is a contradiction in terms. My dislike of Sectarianism can be explained by the name. |
| 297 | 1 | Individualism, runs counter-intuitive to anarchist interactions and structure. |
| 298 | 1 | Insurrectionism, seems to me to be a romanticization of violent tactics, and a sect of anarchism that places its weight on doing illegal actions because they are illegal, rather than considering the effectivness of the tactic. I also dislike the crew system, as it makes it hard for anarchism to become acesible, and often acts as more of a clique, rather than a group. |
| 299 | 1 | Any sort of anarchistic platform or philosophy which intentionally encourages violence against individuals or personal property leans towards the problematic to me. Don't be the first fuckers to throw the rocks at the RNC. Don't smash the damn bank windows. Why? Because anarchism then ceases to be a social ideal and more of an aloof club for the socially..ahem...retarded. I always thought that the goal of anarchism was to encourage an anarchistic society, and society includes everyone walki |
| 300 | 1 | They're generally anti-social |
| 301 | 1 | I feel that a lot of adjectives and "others" within anarchism can force us to focus on differences rather than points of unity. If an anarcho-sydicalist cant have a conversation with a primitivist where are we every going to go other than in circles? |
| 302 | 1 | My views on these trends is pretty much naive. As to @-capitalism: it favours liberties that destroy many people's freedom. As to individualism: many of its goals seem to be achievable without eliminating oppression I think. By anarcho-nationalism I mean anarchists who focus ONLY on locality and REJECT any kind of international connections between movements - it's not anarchism any more I think, but since these kind of people are active in the name of clearly anarchist organisations, this |
| 303 | 1 | The only problem is when others perceive anarchism as being just one or two of the above labels. I don't generally spent time in anarchist group, rather I like to bring anarchist ideas to community groups. |
| 304 | 1 | The people who cares should unite to gather the ultimate energy to accomplish something which has any meaning in this mood fucking chaos. |
| 305 | 1 | I've been interested in how direct action affects the movement but have yet to reach any conclusions. I also would like to know how someone could identify themselves as Christian but have anarchist values at the same time. |
| 306 | 1 | Again, I will explain it in french : Parce que, selon moi, l'anarchisme, bien qu'en constant mouvement comme l'est la vie elle-même, repose sur certains principes inaliénables ; des valeurs communes (égalité ET liberté), le refus de l'autorité et de ses ramifications (patriarcat, racisme, capitalisme, État, police, armée etc.) directes ou indirectes. C'est-à-dire que le concept même de Dieu, pour paraphraser Bakounine, est une entrave à la liberté humaine. De plus, tout ce qui s'approche d'un |
| 307 | 1 | None of these are very effective at alleviating suffering and immediately improving lives. What these groups *do* engage in that helps people straight off the bat has little to nothing to do with their platform. Additionally, most of these groups are saturated with male privilege, racism, ableism, and other forms of prejudice. |
| 308 | 1 | I disagree in the way that platformism considers strategy. I consider anarco-syndicalism as louking backward and to not correspond to the reality (in Europe, i don't no for the rest of the world) Academic and post-something ones are , in a certain way "bourgeois". |
| 309 | 1 | Problems can not be solved through force or violence. Any philosophy/ideology that believes otherwise, I see as a problem. |
| 310 | 1 | I don't understand why Primitivism is on there. There is simply not enough resources for humans to continue to live in cities and such without destroying the earth( and therefore all human life). Civilization was possible through industrial capitalism. it is not possible to maintain without it, and that's a good thing! Anyway it seems like this is a very biased survey, the list of ways anarchist currently identify, and what we have experimented with are not the same as the list of problematic |
| 311 | 1 | Individualism gets in the way of effective organization. Organization is necessary to develop the force of numbers, learn from others, pool resources. There also needs to be a conscious effort to be active within labor and community organizations to develop personal relationships with others in communities of the oppressed and develop a social base for our ideas. Mass organizations are potentially the means to social transformation for the oppressed and exploited. |
| 312 | 1 | Any violent movement is counterproductive. Property destruction and immaturity will not win people over to make the world a freer place. It gets people hurt. Death and serious injury are permanent and the state is a dangerous and violent entity that is not concerned for the welfare of those that oppose it's myriad of objectives. |
| 313 | 1 | I am against capitalism because it creates more racism, sexism, classism, and poverty. It exploits human beings for profit and places the value of profit above the value of human beings. For these reasons I think all anarchists should oppose capitalism, and that is why I am against anarcho-capitalism. I'm against individualism because it says that individual freedom is more important than liberating groups of oppressed people. I believe all anarchists should consider liberating all groups of peo |
| 314 | 1 | All of these trends are problematic in their own way, though all of them also have the potential to contribute positively to a holistic anarchist praxis of rebellion. |
| 315 | 1 | non communist |
| 316 | 1 | There can be no freedom under capitalism |
| 317 | 1 | I have issues with the intellectual culture of anarchism. It all comes from white europeans. |
| 318 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism simply makes no sense. However, I have yet to meet one in person so it probably isn't that problematic. Secondly, I think there has been an increasing trend in sectarianism in the US. I think that is far more debilitating than anything else. It seems people are looking for too much ideological purity, and I think that may be because we have had so few gains in recent years. It is much easier to attack your allies than a state that seems omnipotent. |
| 319 | 1 | Answer 1: Anarchism is anarchism. Answer 2: They're very often the public face of anarchism. From WTO to the G20 to events staged in Europe, in particular. If any dupe in boots and a face mask is going to be the public face of anarchism, expect it to remain mired in the tired stereotypes that have plagued it since inception. Anarchists must be brave, show their faces, and speak up. Unless, perpetuating our marginalization is what we really want. |
| 320 | 1 | Coercion is an antithetical means to freedom |
| 321 | 1 | In my opinion none of the checked above are anarchism(with exception to Insurrectionist anarchism which I only have strategic and tactical qualms with) so I find it problematic that they are identified as so. |
| 322 | 1 | Post-Anarchism alienates people by its esoteric and impenetrable ranblings. Sectarianism prevents a clear message reaching the people and makes it easy to misrepresent Anarchists as squabbling children. Marxism and Communism make the movement/s look outdated and threatening, rather than liberating, progressive and hopeful. Outdated social models (bourgeois vs proletariat, essentially) fail to account for the dynamism of modern social hierarchy and the capacity of the Internet to melt th |
| 323 | 1 | Being apolitical is defeatist. Like it or not, the state doesn't go away if you don't participate in it, so you can at least try to lobby it or vote in it. Engaging in civil actions normally considered vital to a democracy do not cause the state to be legitimized. I hesitate to check 'anarcho-capitalism' in the last question. While there are serious problems with standard anarcho-capitalist theories, I feel that most anarcho-communist/syndicalist attacks on anarcho-capitalist devolve into No |
| 324 | 1 | They are mostly not based on class struggle, and are not open to learning from class struggle and the multiple ways in which working class people resist, and learning from other traditions, like libertarian marxism. instead, a lot of them are hostile to us (the working class) eg. primitivism, individualism, post-anarchism, academic anarchism, lifestyle anarchism, crimethinc -- they assume we are a passive, dumb herd ie. they are elitist. post-anarchism and academic anarchism is confined to unive |
| 325 | 1 | Not a truly anarchist philosophy. |
| 326 | 1 | crimthinc: sucks... academia: blow it up! primitivism: white kids with dredds and mud on their face making clicking noises is just appauling capitalism: fuck it! christian: no gods, no masters individualism: another fucked up western ideology |
| 327 | 1 | It's what people commonly think of when they hear "Anarchist", and it's unenlightened in the sense that it still legitimizes violence as a solution to deal with conflicts. |
| 328 | 1 | I consider the socialist and communist forms of anarchism to be as flawed as their non-anarchist versions. Any collectivism will require a committee or group to decide need & allocation. They simply won't be anarchistic. Anarcho-primitivism doesn't work as an overall ideology because cannot be formed without forcing people to accept it. That force would need to be maintained for a long time to get people to accept their new position. This use of force goes against anarchist principles. |
| 329 | 1 | I'm reluctant to tick any of the above. Insurrectionary anarchism is a genuine anarchist tendency with which I strongly disagree; but I have yet to see how the occasional arrest or even the rather more common disruptions on discussion threads pose any kind of major problem for serious revolutionaries at present. Again, there are genuinely sectarian anarchists (those who refuse to work with people who hold different views). I reject this approach, but as with insurrectionism, I'm not sure if it h |
| 330 | 1 | bloody primitivists, they all have beautiful websites, why do these highly creative computer genuises all have a desire to return to the stone age?? |
| 331 | 1 | Platformism and academicism are elitist and exlusionary. I'm not going to be so petty or border-policing as to say that people who subscribe to those ideas aren't allowed to call themselves anarchists. It just seems to me that requiring people to read a lot of theory and/or go to school before they can be part of your movement is antithetical to the goal sharing anarchist ideas and actions with a broad range of people. Plus the platforms read suspiciously like lists of rules. As for sectarian |
| 332 | 1 | I want to qualify this by saying that there are, obviously, awesome people doing rad shit who associate themselves with all of these traditions. I find primitivism problematic, because I think the dichotomy between civilized and primitive represents some of the worst aspects of the Western tradition. I think, in many cases, it promotes a tokenistic approach to anticolonial/indigenous struggles. Also, what the fuck is "rewilding"? I think Platformism is often clinging to the past. I think acad |
| 333 | 1 | Well, a part of not being able to comment of many because I am ignorant of what they stand for, my problem is not so much with the 'labels' but with the capacity for dialogue and stand on minimum agreements. A society based on horizontality, mutual aid and solidarity is difficulty constructed by means of individualism and sectarianism. Different people may have different means and even ends, anarchism cannot impose an iron programme (like Goldman said), but for that matter it is hard to thin |
| 334 | 1 | individualism would result in chaos and things sucking. same with capitalism. dont even get me started on christian anarchism christianity has alot of oppresion built into it. |
| 335 | 1 | They are regressive and don't move towards human progress in both social and technological areas. We need to advance in technology as well as in our social outlooks to really live in a better world. |
| 336 | 1 | In my opinion, as anarchists we should focus on working amongst our communities and seeking to alter conditions directly surrounding us. Part of the beauty of anarchist thought is that we agree that we do not have to, nor should we, be of perfect agreement on anything. However, scuffles between various movements whether they be verbal/literary denunciations, or the absolutely stupid and self-destructive nature of the attack on the CrimethInc convergence only serve the general opinion that anarc |
| 337 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is not anarchism, so I don't feel that it should be in this catagory at all. The issue with lifestyle anarchism is two-fold 1. that the imposition of particular beliefs onto other people is contrary to anarchism (e.g. 'I'm a better anarchist than you) and that as a means of structural change, it is not in any way effective. |
| 338 | 1 | I'm using CrimethInc, somewhat unfairly, as a designation that identifies a newer type of lifestyle anarchism, where anarchy is another in a choice of subcultural styles for young people, creating a situation where anarchy comes loaded with associations with specific clothing styles, hairstyles, and terrible taste in music (all youth oriented) and where political philosophy is secondary. This creates a situation where adults and those who don't identify with subcultural lifestyles dismiss anarch |
| 339 | 1 | One of the beauties of Anarchism is that it is left to the individual to decide how they want to organize. Back biting fellow free-thinkers does not aid in anyone's cause as I see it. All Anarchists are necessarily against the state, so they are my allies. I don't agree with the AnCap stance in support of capitalism, but as long as they don't intend to enforce capitalism upon me, they're better than a statist capitalist any day. |
| 340 | 1 | If all that society knows of anarchism is through meeting people who call themselves anarchists but are just trading on the label, then it defines their perception of what being anarchist is. Anarchism is not punk music, its not funny haircuts, or not washing, its not squatting, its not riots - though some anarchists do these things. The definining feature of anarchism is that it is a social movement with a massive historical legacy that came as a reaction against capitalism. Anarchism is both a |
| 341 | 1 | it's a fraud; it tars people's perception of "anarchism" and it's one of the most authoritarian ideologies in the world. |
| 342 | 1 | Primitivism is simply not possible. Without industrialized agriculture, 90% of the global population would not be able to survive. Anarcho-capitalism can't really be described as anarchism. Private property requires either police or security guards to maintain it. Security guards, in an anarcho-capitalist society, have no reason to not take the capital they are supposed to guard. Anarcho-capitalism will become anarchism quickly enough. Sectarianism is a bit of a problem. I think it's okay |
| 343 | 1 | (1) The 'posts' see power everywhere, because that's what they're looking for. (2) Practices and structures are more important than discourses, whether professional academics want to admit it or not. And (3) anarcho-capitalists are deluded. |
| 344 | 1 | Anyone who thinks their particular 'denomination' of anarchism is the only right way to go is acting as a part of the problem. Anarchists who put their effort into creating divisions with almost anyone are just perpetuating the same problems that I think we all purport to be working against in this society. |
| 345 | 1 | Ex-worker is an excuse to be lazy. We need to use technology to our advantage so collectively we don't have to work so hard/long. |
| 346 | 1 | Civilizers and primitivists can never really be allies. Its far more different than collectivism vs. anarchism. |
| 347 | 1 | Well, the class struggle is really important for me, so the ideologies I checked are the ones that seem least concerned or least well-equipped to deal with the problem of inequality. |
| 348 | 1 | Because abolishing the state without abolishing capitalism would not end oppression. |
| 349 | 1 | The consistent living of and adherence to our ideals should help us with our organizing, not detract from it. Primitivism does the latter. |
| 350 | 1 | 1. Note that I'm not sufficiently familiar with Crimethinc to make a judgement call. If I had to make a call on my present information, I'd probably say they were problematic, too. 2. The ONLY way to an Anarchist society is through a workers' revolution. And that revolution requires deliberate organisation, in the here & now as well as at the time of the revolutionary uprising itself. 3. Just because a tendency is problematic, that doesn't mean we have to be abusive to its adherents. Th |
| 351 | 1 | Sectarianism divides us, while "anarcho-capitalism" is a co-optation of the movement. We aren't capitalists; we are for a free society, where there are no capitalists, no bosses, no one with more while others have less. |
| 352 | 1 | All of the "left" anarchists, at least most, cling to the old labor theory of value, which is false since it does not solve the diamond/water paradox, unlike the subjective theory of value. Secondly, most "left" anarchists, or socialist anarchists/communists/syndicalists, believe in restricting certain forms of private property. And stealing the means of production from the capitalist. |
| 353 | 1 | Separating ourselves from the rest of society seems pointless, and doomed to perpetuation of what already exists (that's why no lifestyle anarchism). Academia is useless, and hypocritical usually. And sectarianism is stupid and completely counter to the idea of anarchism, as it means you are trying to determine what someone else should believe. So hypocritical too. |
| 354 | 1 | We have no leaders apart from the people who set the agenda and then administer to it - concentrating power and generating hierarchy despite claiming to be a growing movement with no hierarchy. |
| 355 | 1 | Any form that uses anarchist language to push forward essentially statist or capitalist ideas: racial/cultural segregation or drop-out justified as reclaimed "empowerment"; the free market justified as a radical alternative to the state; using the speech of rights, citizenship, and other statist ideas justified as getting people "where they're at". This can apply to any trend, but it's most prevalent in a few. |
| 356 | 1 | Primitivists seem most prone to a misanthropic view point. They almost hope for a social collapse, ignoring the genocidal implications. I appreciate their critiques, but too often their worldview is eerily similar to a fundamentalist religion. |
| 357 | 1 | To me anarchism is inherently social(ist). It is also born out of "society." Although I think that individual liberty/autonomy is an important aspect of anarchism if it is just reduced to individualism it loses its most important power, that is the power of collective action/mutuality/solidarity. Anarchism should be concerned with social goods as well as individual goods. CAll me crazy, but i enjoy some of the comforts that industrial society brings. Although it can be destructive I don't thi |
| 358 | 1 | Any ism especially one that starts with anarch- shouldn't have any dogmatic attachments to it. Christianity, capitalism, defy what anarchism means for me, and platformism and sectarinism is too limiting and mirrors what society already has to offer. |
| 359 | 1 | For the reasons that economics teaches. |
| 360 | 1 | By definition, Anarchy is without a state, a government or any form of ruler. Capitalism is nothing more than a ruler, only much more metaphysical. It's a system, and we shouldn't be ruled by a system that doesn't know us or addresses our individual need. |
| 361 | 1 | The two are quite similar, but primitivism is more focused on a heavily romanticized view of human societies prior to widespread agriculture, a view ironically, which is very modern and European in origin, and arguably trivializing and othering to real non-agricultural societies - besides being a really terrible idea. More broadly, looking backwards is something I have observed as plaguing the anarchist community at large. Knowing history is important, and so are the contributions anarchists |
| 362 | 1 | It's religious, thus a denier of truth. |
| 363 | 1 | Anarcho capitalism in't anarchims, it's just a new ultra-individualistic kind of capitalism |
| 364 | 1 | this is not anarchism |
| 365 | 1 | Anarchism should be about diverstiy and coming together despite differences, but there is pressure to be the same, even though I am vegan for example, other anarchists pressure other anarchists to be vegan, for me it is tolerance that people need to decide their own values, rather than the state or any other group deciding for them, then to reach an agreement about how to cope with this diversity in a way that attemps to make all in the group happy. Also it can be agest, and the challenges of h |
| 366 | 1 | Primitivism: No solid arguments, makes us look even more crazy. Anarcho-Capitalism: Hierarchical, ignores the fundamental problems with capitalism. Christian Anarchism: "No gods, no masters." |
| 367 | 1 | Individualism is good for government and it is product of western culture. - Primitivism is not anarchism, for me, the same is about anarcho-capitalism. - Platformists can easy abolish freedom of individuals inside of group, I got such impression, they didn't find balance. - Post-anarchists are trying to make present situation as very different than in the history but only cosmetic changes are made, and these changes are made only in western world but not in asia, africa, s.america, etc, so, I t |
| 368 | 1 | The anarcho-socialists and anarcho-communists who I have met lack intellectual clarity in their vision of what the world should look like. Anarchism is no government--no organization claiming a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. However, the "anarcho-collectivists" I've met seem to be okay with a government as long as it does what they think it should do. They don't respect private property or free trade, which are necessary aspects of a voluntary, non-violent society. I think *voluntar |
| 369 | 1 | There must be room for dissenting opinions without the movement, or it is not truly an anarchistic statement that we make, but the motive of a selection. Debate is necessary, our strong wills are necessary, but our underlying similarities are paramount, they are all we have. |
| 370 | 1 | We can't go back for God's sake! I don't think accentuating our differences is a good idea. |
| 371 | 1 | BECAUSE IT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF CONTROLE |
| 372 | 1 | Insurrectionists are loud, cranky 18-year-old morons who just like throwing bricks. Lifestylism doesn't build movements or harm capitalism. |
| 373 | 1 | problem is that people sit around considering what are the problematic trends in anarchism today. |
| 374 | 1 | My feeling is that ancaps fail to answer the "social problem" effectively and instead rely on market economics to solve social problems. |
| 375 | 1 | many problems are easy to solve with unity |
| 376 | 1 | There are a few people who like to call themselves anarchists and claim to live outside the state, when really they are just taking advantage of the working poor and the welfare state. |
| 377 | 1 | Anarchy can be seen as life "Without rulers." Everyone is entitled to their own chance at happiness, and to different people that means different things, and by inhibiting what they think is right, you've stepped in the way of their personal freedoms. |
| 378 | 1 | i like crimthinc for some of their direct actions, but i don't think they employ any anarchist theory. i'm afraid that people new to anarchism will only see it as rioting and spray painting without the intelligence and sensibility. |
| 379 | 1 | The ones I checked are not Anarchism or have bad logic behind them. |
| 380 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchism is often based on violence. Anarcho-Capitalism is essentially a contradiction in terms, although it has some practicable solutions. Sectarianism threatens to tear apart the Anarchist tradition and make an anarchist society implausible. |
| 381 | 1 | The greatest divide between anarchists has always been sectarianism. Anarchists don't have a set of guidelines that are set in stone like the Communist Manifesto and therefore differ (sometimes to the extreme) on ideology. This is evident when reading Lifestyle anarchism by Murray Bookchin. Bookchin clearly displays his frustration with some contemporary anarchists (Zerzan, Bey.) I think lifestyle anarchism has been a huge problem in the younger anarchist crowd. People tend to focus more on t |
| 382 | 1 | Anarchism should not imply limits on human association, it should imply a limit on coercion. A labor movement or anti-business anarchist movement is not consistent with natural rights, the right to self and property. |
| 383 | 1 | This concept runs contrary to the ultimate goal of a non-hierarchical society. |
| 384 | 1 | not necessary. |
| 385 | 1 | Nearly every discussion I've had with other anarchists starts with some form of the question "So, what kind of anarchist are you?" That's generally followed with some expression of "Real anarchists are socialist/collectivist/individualist/etc." |
| 386 | 1 | I'm not enough of an intellectual to know what they all mean sorry |
| 387 | 1 | anarcho-communist |
| 388 | 1 | Although I think some self-described anarcho-capitalists (I'd call them anarcho-"capitalists" as opposed to "anarcho"-capitalists) are genuine market or individualist anarchists, despite their unfortunate choice of label, the movement as a whole is clearly outside the historic anarchist tradition. Platformism reminds me too much of Leninist vanguardism. And an insurrectionary approach to anything IMO is just setting yourself up for all the authoritarianism that revolutionary struggle almost in |
| 389 | 1 | Religion and anarchy cannot work together. |
| 390 | 1 | This is based mostly upon what little I have read of Primitivism, so it's not a very serious critique, but in general I like technology and think it should be utilized and not rejected. I think that such thoughts and and ideas are rooted more in few of the new and not so much in a practical examination of what is happening. But hey, maybe one day a Primitivist will prove me wrong! =P Sectarianism is of course a major issue. I hear about comrades attacking each other verbally for work they do |
| 391 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron. Coercion, hierarchy, and private ownership are intrinsic parts of the Capitalist model. Abolition of these tyrannical ideas is solid ground for anarchists to stand in solidarity, but my understanding is that Anarcho-Capitialists would have no problems with any of these concepts. They are American Libertarians by another name, no? Or am I being to divisive? |
| 392 | 1 | Anarchism is the antithesis of capitalism. As far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as anarcho-capitalism |
| 393 | 1 | Individualism- Their more than just 1 person on this planet Primitivism- I like my easy bake oven Insurrectionary anarchism- Sounds lovely, however I think it will take a slow progression of chipping away at the system. Lifestyle anarchism- filled with trust fund middle classer's Anarcho-Capitalism- Capitalism=Explotation Platformism- Wants to reform trade-unions and not hugely critical on Nationalism |
| 394 | 1 | i beleive in the power of collectives when considering the quality of the result (product, life, individual happiness), individualism equals hippie'ism and americanism to me = egoism. and results in poor quality of life or product. the different views of different people will result in a better product/life. primitivsm: i dont believe everything was better in the old days. im a feminist and awoman and primitivsm sqares me. it makes me think of nazis and racism and sexism. the strongest must sur |
| 395 | 1 | Platformism reproduces the worst organizational and ideological aspects of Trotskyism. The connection of Platformist groups with unions and NGOs is terrible. Syndicalism is tied up with the unions as well. Insurrectionary anarchism is troubling in its inability to understand itself and its insignificance. |
| 396 | 1 | I'm sick of insurrectionists using their ideology to be dudely assholes. |
| 397 | 1 | Horses for courses, motherfucka. |
| 398 | 1 | you can't ram your ethics down peoples throats thats not on |
| 399 | 1 | A lot of people profess to be anarchist but act in a very authoritarian manner in their personal life and in their collective organizing. |
| 400 | 1 | Let's focus less on labels and differences, and more on what we have in common. |
| 401 | 1 | Absolutism stops us from finding new ways of experimenting, learning how to organise and challenge our positions to make them stronger. There are platformist elements every, even in the strangest AnCap camps and their whole philosophy is based on self-evident axioms that are absolutes, which is ridiculous. And national anarchism because they're "Anarchists" who are tolerated in certain circles, even though they are blatantly racist and are basically using their ideology as a starting point f |
| 402 | 1 | Insurrectionism has both high and low points. It should not exists in the form as it does, but should not be opposed as a whole. Their biggest problem (not true about all insurectionists) is dogmatic anti-organization attitude and little reflection how to relate to the rest of the working class. Don't know much individualists, but I know revolution needs organization and masses of people acting like they never acted before. Lifestyle anarchists and individualists don't seriously have anything |
| 403 | 1 | True anarchism always has to oppose capitalism. You cannot be an anarchist and a supporter of capitalism. |
| 404 | 1 | Primitivism irrationally removes much of the progress made by mankind through science, anarcho-capitalism ignores non-statist structures of hierarchy and often degenerates into what Kevin Carson terms "vulgar libertarianism" (Although I have a good deal of fondness for much of Rothbard and related thinkers), and Christian anarchism connects political theory to irrational dogma in a way which defies the reasonable philosophical standard of a Rawlsian veil of ignorance. |
| 405 | 1 | Protesting, where the State has to spend money on security is not a problem for the State...that's what it does best...the recent violent outbreaks in London, in Pittsburgh, in France or in Greece are not getting to the main pumps in the system of domination...neither are social forae... However, I like the enthusiasm generated by protest... Getting arrested is counter productive and expensive... Anarchists are working under cover all over the place : NGO's, Colleges, businesses, cha |
| 406 | 1 | It favors an authoritarian property rights system which creates classes and hierarchy. |
| 407 | 1 | Anarchists must learn to work with each other as well as a community in order to cause real change. We need a mass movement, not a black block. |
| 408 | 1 | Primitivists effectively argue for mass famine of billions |
| 409 | 1 | Because I think core anarchist ideas is complementary of individual and collective. Because I think we can bring social change only by the collective action and therefore we need to build mass anarchist movement. Because I think that anarchist puirty is bad thing for our movement and that we need as same time to be practical as we can and engage in on-going struggles, fighting also for the reforms (but forcing the state on them) - especially in the context where under impact of neoliberalism man |
| 410 | 1 | Individualists tends to propose individual "solutions" to social problems. Primitivism is not for poor or disabled people, old or even a lot of times people of color: the privilege of primitivist fantasies of "re-wilding" and the potential racism that People of Color could face for holding such views or aims make it inaccessible to everyone but some white people privileged enough to access the more influential books on the matter. And primitivism does nothing to stop the pollution, climate cr |
| 411 | 1 | I think that there is a great deal of cooperation and discussion which could take place between different schools of anarchist thought. However, in many cases, it is necessary to do extensive work agreeing on definitions and defusing rhetoric before any outreach is possible. Anarchists should be working together to build alternatives to statism, even if they are building competing alternatives. |
| 412 | 1 | This world has come to a big empty regarding life necessities such as the right to be respected as a human being, being able to have food, clothes. So much less spirituality, humanity for way too much superficiality, too much sleeping sheeps. |
| 413 | 1 | something links these two through a liberal discourse. Lifestyle practices today reflect often the desire for a social democratic state, without the means or knowledge of how to make that happen, so nice well meaning people opt for self-organizing their own inclusion and welfare rather than demanding the state gives it to them. Perhaps its just an autonomous brand of idealism. The Academics, on the other hand, tend to theorize through stupid ethnographies, exactly how this happens. |
| 414 | 1 | I found a lot of egoism man in anarchist movement and too much dogma |
| 415 | 1 | Primitivism and lifestyle anarchism are escapist and/or fantasy-based, and abandon anarchism's historic role as the moral core of the socialist movement. |
| 416 | 1 | Any anarchism that isn't anti-capitalist and doesn't strive to address the working class broadly (while recognizing/engaging its complexity/diversity in terms of race, gender, etc.) I think is a navel-gazing thought-exercise in theory . |
| 417 | 1 | I was once extremely active in the anarchist movement and for many reasons have moved away from all anarchist groups and organizations. I feel that many anarchist groups have become extremely out of touch with the rest of their communities around them and have created such an intense subculture that instead of winning our neighbors over to our ideas we are shunning them out by creating a socially uncomfortable environment. |
| 418 | 1 | Without writing a book about it, I believe that lifestyle anarchism is the equivalent of a fashion trend; it takes the worst parts of individualist ideologies and takes away from the anarchist movement as a whole. Primitivism and anarcho-capitalism also do not mesh with my ideas of what an anarchist society should be. |
| 419 | 1 | In order to maintain any kind of mutual cooperation between anarchists, we shouldn't be concentrating on the differences in philosophy or other minor concerns. |
| 420 | 1 | Les anarchistes ne devraient pas promouvoir les modes de vie dégénérés produits par l'immoralité intrinsèque du capitalisme. Le prolétariat aspire à de saines valeurs basées sur la famille prolétarienne, nucléaire, monogamique hétérosexuelle bi-parentale et rien d'autre. Michel Chartrand disait que la famille est le lieu d'apprentissage de la vie en société. L'erreur de la rectitude politique est de croire que l'on peut devenir majoritaire en agglutinant des minorités qui chiquent la guenille |
| 421 | 1 | About anarcho-capitalism for example, I think the two ideas are too contradictory to fit together. |
| 422 | 1 | Primitivism are all doom and gloom instead of trying to create a possibility of a modern or better living standards yet maintaining or increasing the current human population. Anarcho-capitalists take the current artificial and illegitimate one size fits all property philosophy of the state and applies it to a their philosophy of anarchism. Making a feodalistic society. Anarcho-Nationalism(Anti-statists), from what I have seen on Youtube have been on the rise, mainly be ultra conservative |
| 423 | 1 | The support of private ownership is no better than the support of state ownership. Capitalism and markets as concepts are fundamentally based on violence and hierarchy. Christianity I don't have as much of a problem with, but it's illogical and tends to be immoral. There is no justification for a belief in a god or gods which I've encountered and it necessitates a belief in dogma, which is fundamentally problematic and shows deep flaws in one's thinking. |
| 424 | 1 | anarcho-syndaclism is impossible in this day in age where factory management is all computorized anarcho-capitalism just has too high of a risk of corruption |
| 425 | 1 | The man point is agreement on ending the State.. The rest can be worked out later. |
| 426 | 1 | individualist Anarchist and Insurrectionary anarchism too concerned with self interest than the common interest. and thus, most Insurrectionary anarchist and individualist are rarely have an open mind because their egos are often taking over their logical thinking |
| 427 | 1 | Anarchy is organizing masses by neabs of class struggle |
| 428 | 1 | they seem rooted in privileged communities with no consideration to authentic liberation. i think they are coming from a place of good intentions, but unfortunately they have not been supported by revolutionary anarchists and then get nothing done. |
| 429 | 1 | Primitivsm, post-anarchism, anarcho-capitalism are too far away from historical anarchism to b accuratly called anarchism. I find this problematic, and they should find themselves a different name and stop confusing everyone. I also find them problematic because I reeeeally disagree with them politically. Insurrectionary anarchism, as I understand it, is causing ruckus in the hope that it will cause other to cause ruckus (and thus destroy capitalism), rather than building democratic organisat |
| 430 | 1 | A lot of anarchists think that being an anarchist is a free pass on issues of privilege. Of course YOU think you're awesome, but what about the rest of the world? Why should the world care? |
| 431 | 1 | in-fighting and difficulty is kind of a hindrance to the values of mutual-aid, co-operation and support that anarchism holds are they not? |
| 432 | 1 | Everything can be problematic. I don't think any ideology could be completely immune from being problematic. |
| 433 | 1 | Some might be indeed judged problematic, especially that some are very contradictory. However I can't decide on expelling one trend in favor of the others without accepting to be not heard myself for my ideas. |
| 434 | 1 | Individualism, insurrectionary, lifestyle and the various 'post' schools of thought have always been a part of anarchism, but I think do little to advance us towards revolution and a new society. While the 'post' schools of thought are relatively recent, I think it wouldn't be too hard to see them as part of a tradition of speculative and abstract dissent/opposition to the dominant society that has little relation to mass movements and social change that are at the core of anarchism. |
| 435 | 1 | Not so familiar with all the terms |
| 436 | 1 | Unless we want to be hypocrites, Anarchism implies a sort of pacifism, because we accuse the government of forcefully imposing itself. |
| 437 | 1 | I disagree with most capitalist/free market tenets and I'm hard pressed to believe that Jesus was an anarchist. |
| 438 | 1 | Large scale capitalism seems to clash with some [core] anarchist beliefs (IMHO). However, I wouldn't damn the idea, I'm just skeptical. |
| 439 | 1 | anarcho capitalism isn't sustainable anarchism. it will generate wealth inequality and the rich will seek a state to protect their riches, therefore making the anarchist part impossible. lifestyle anarchism won't work because it lacks the organizational structures to fight back fascism. |
| 440 | 1 | Individualism, Primitivism and Lifestylism with their Egoistic core create a divisive rift in our community. |
| 441 | 1 | how can you be an anarchist and not be an individualist? Communism (common ownership not state ownership)is personal freedom for the individual from wage slavory and exploitation and freedom to create and enjoy the full fruits of our creativity. Primitivism concerns itself with modernity not authority. i suppose you can combine the two but i have no desire to return to primitive society nor i suspect does most of my class. not a problem just a distraction. when and if we are forced to defen |
| 442 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is short of theoretical/ideological foundations, thus fails to come up with a working suggestion about today's political and financial status of the world. |
| 443 | 1 | anarcho-syndicalists are communists ;) and i have no idea what the other trends are |
| 444 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchists care only about the label they give themselves. What makes them individually "more anarchist" is all that matters. In this way they are elitist and alienating to the masses. |
| 445 | 1 | In my opinion Anarchy and socialism/communism are not compatible as they require a larger government, even if the end result was the same I don't like the idea of working towards more regulation. |
| 446 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism does not destroy all hierarchies, it simply eliminates capitalism's competition. |
| 447 | 1 | I don't find trends to be problematic. They are what they are, and competing ideas are okay. |
| 448 | 1 | Primitivsm - Extremely Reactionary, outgrowth of lifestylism Insurrectionary Anarchism - Anti orginizational, anti theory. Lifestyle Anarchism - seeks to end human problems without confronting the root problems (they but fairtrade, but tolerate freetrade products) Anarcho-Capitalism - seeks tp replace former public instiutions with private ones, thus ending all public voice in life. even a minor voice. |
| 449 | 1 | One, capitalism is inherently based on ideas which are contradictory to what anarchism is and aims to achieve, so Anarcho-Capitalism is impossible. Two, primitivism provides flimsy critiques of the current state and capitalism/corporatism, and fails to provide a viable alternative, but this can be seen as a critique of all anarchism today. Three, sectarian divisions only serve to further divide an already divided movement. |
| 450 | 1 | No anarchy can ever be collective. |
| 451 | 1 | I think that platformism as expressed by groups like anarkismo or Liberty and Solidarity are that they are essentially communist parties, leninists who don't like lenin. Highly centralized wanna-be vanguards that think they are the "leaders" of the "Mass". I don't except the division of the "economic organization" and the "political organization". |
| 452 | 1 | Primitivism, Individualism, Post-anarchism, Lifestylism, Anarcho-capitalism, insurrectionism: Because any political ideology that calls itself anarchist but does not advocate a decentralized, democratic, and federated communist society and the abolition of capitalism through organized class struggle, is not actually anarchism as far as I'm concerned. Platformism: Because of its tendency to adopt leftist realpolitik, and its empty "pragmatist" rhetoric. Generally, the least problematic out of al |
| 453 | 1 | Well, first off, "anarcho"-capitalism is a contradiction. There is nothing in the broad anarchist tradition that has ever advocated capitalism. From the development of anarchist theory and practice since the mid-1800's, anarchism has always been, and will always be, anti-capitalist and socialist. "Anarcho"-capitalists believe that hierarchy can not be done away with which any anarchists, whether primmies, lifestylist, or commie, seeks to eliminate hierarchy. Anarchism and capitalism are not comp |
| 454 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism, that's self explanatory. Primitivism, the last thing we need is regression and an apparent need to barter with shiny beads. They give us all a bad name and we are simply reduced to laughing stock because of them. |
| 455 | 1 | Divides the working class |
| 456 | 1 | If drawn out, they would seem to lead to an over-arching structure that is not conducive to individual rule over one's self. |
| 457 | 1 | Primitivism- Disregarding technology is impractical, unrealistic and counter productive in creating a just, sustainable, and prosperous society. Technology will always exist in some form or fashion. Who would dictate the types of technology that was or wasn't in line with primitivist doctrine? Considering and establishing such statutes is counter to the principles of true Anarchy. Insurrectionary Anarchism- Perpetuates further death and destruction. Creates a climate of fear that hampers the |
| 458 | 1 | I don't think religion can ever truly be the way forward. |
| 459 | 1 | capital cannot be destroyed by a lifestyle. |
| 460 | 1 | primitivism is counter productive. modern technology has (or could) eliminated scarcity, therefore eliminating the evolutionary need to compete with one another, allowing us to exist as one species. anarcho-capitalism recognizes the oppressive nature of government but not the oppressive nature corporatism |
| 461 | 1 | These schools are highly dogmatic and employ silver bullets, often targeting people rather than domination. |
| 462 | 1 | Anarchy means lack of government. To me, this means power to the individuals. There is no collective without it's individual members. The 'collective' is not a thing, it is an abstract concept used for a plethora of reasons. People, individuals, are real; they are not concepts, they are not parts in a machine. The individual is the smallest minority on earth and the rights of the individual, or lack thereof, are the biggest factor in society, now, in the past, and in the future. |
| 463 | 1 | some of the anarchists i happened to meet were so sure of their convictions that they automatically tried to convince me they were right, there was no place for doubt in their mind nor for questioning and less again for openness towards a slightly different point of view, some of them weren't even able to properly listen to something different. |
| 464 | 1 | Owning stuff is not evil. Hurting people and taking their stuff is. Many anarchists confuse this. Yes, corporations exploit others USING the state. But the solution is not to forbid free trade between consenting adults, but to forbid the state. |
| 465 | 1 | A lot of young kids in the student movement because of the free nature of the internet are getting reintroduced to left communist ideas but incredibly out of context. |
| 466 | 1 | Capitalism is founded on private property, so force is needed to keep the respect for it, either physical or intellectual, probably both. |
| 467 | 1 | Attempts to mandate the kind society in which people should live seems to be exactly what anarchism isn't about. |
| 468 | 1 | I think that the problematic trends don't come from which of the subgenres of anarchism people subscribe to so much as the bickering over which ones are most problematic. |
| 469 | 1 | Lifestyle ,because lifestyle anarchism is not anarchism, it's a trend of capitalism leading to becoming a complete victim and also, creating bad ideals for the movement. It's not deep. Anarcho-capitalism, because it brings total rule of the elite class without bringing equality, thus not anarchist. Sectarianism and individualism, because they oppose team organisation, thus leading to failures and avoiding the ideals and facts of anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism. |
| 470 | 1 | I find that there's much emphasis on theory rather than practice. I also feel isolated from many practicing anarchists, who play too much pressure on lifestyle (dress, diet) rather than action. I'm an educated person with a job/career, I shouldn't have to feel guilty about that. |
| 471 | 1 | Primitivists are genocidal. Anarcho-capitalists are just assholes. Markets aren't necessarily bad, but violently enforceable, arbitrarily large property claims are equivalent to States. Christians, by definition, believe themselves to hold a privileged position in the universe compared to nonbelievers. Such arrogance is inherently authoritarian, regardless of what anyone says. |
| 472 | 1 | I think everyone ought to just leave eachother alone other than voluntary interactions. |
| 473 | 1 | I think that everything should be problematized... Of course nothing's perfect. That doesn't mean that I think any of these are WRONG, I just think that we should be evaluating ourselves constantly. |
| 474 | 1 | It is ridiculous and illogical. |
| 475 | 1 | Cause many of them I think are based on a false view of what anarchism stands for. Anarchism is revolution. The only high qualities of an individual are not going to change history. There is nothing revolutionary in a self-autonomus attitude or absence of tool or structure. Lots are lacking of basic socialist, historical analysis and oranisation. In this mean, revolutionnary anarchism stands for a mass mouvement(against sectarianism) filled with working-class knowledge inspired with liberty idea |
| 476 | 1 | Apart from the Left-Rothbardians many anarcho-capitalists are crypto-feudalists (Hans Herman Hoppe and his ilk) or attempt to justify "slave contracts" (Walter Block. Academic anarchism is worthless because theory devoid of practice is worthless. |
| 477 | 1 | My experience of these groups is that they preach against hierachy but don't follow what they preach, especially the academics. |
| 478 | 1 | Individualism seems to go against the collective, participatory, social ethic that marks my understanding of anarchism. I don't think we should retreat from technology. I'm interested in non-violent solutions. |
| 479 | 1 | Postmodern relativism, with its shrugging dismissal of all "ideologies" e.g. anarchist socialism, is just a conservative anti-radical despond. CrimethInc are a bunch of confused punks without any revolutionary programme. Lifestyleism is just a holier-than-thou individual enterprise of feeling "anarchic" without doing anything to bring about social change. "Sectarianism" is justified. |
| 480 | 1 | Anything that is not based on a total rejection of violence is problematic. All collectivist systems are based on violence and cannot properly be called "anarchist". |
| 481 | 1 | The given types of 'anarchism' do not recognise the class-based structure of society, or consider narrow tactics over long-term strategy for transformation of government. In the cases of Christian anarchists and lifestylers, lip-service is paid to an anti-authoritarian ideal, but no steps are ever taken to democratise or remove authority. |
| 482 | 1 | Anarchism cannot be reduced to a lifestyle choice or a person who thinks she or he should be outside the bounds of whatever laws or norms she/he finds objectionable (individualism/lifestyle). Academic anarchism fails to communicate with regular people in terms that they can understand and relate to on an emotional level, which, let's be honest, is the driving force behind most peoples' actions and even ideologies. Capitalism and Christianity (xianity), as long-standing systems of oppression an |
| 483 | 1 | I have no idea what any of those mean |
| 484 | 1 | These "anarchist" groups advocate the use of force to keep people from trading freely (using money), etc. They call for the outlawing of certain things... but they say they don't want laws. Really they do, they just want their own laws, and therefore, rulers who agree with them. |
| 485 | 1 | Too much tendency to fracture along ideological differences within the workers movement instead of being unite along what is the common heritage and strength of Anarchists, Socialists, and Communists in all different versions of these ideologies. |
| 486 | 1 | They are the most elitist and disruptive of the trends. |
| 487 | 1 | "Anarcho-Capitalism" should be self explanatory why it's a problem. Individualism is the open door to it. Crimethinc and Post-Anarchism are ultimately useless outside of self-indulgence and I see a parallel between doing nothing and living for free outside the system mooching off others (Crimethinc) and doing nothing living inside the system profitting from others (the ruling class). Primitivism is irrational, ecological fascism requiring mass genocide of the population to function. |
| 488 | 1 | I don't personally know any other people who are also anarchist, in real life. I have no clue about the direction anarchism as a whole movement is going. |
| 489 | 1 | Primitivism is idealism of a society which never existed, actual primitive society would be a huge regression and worse in many ways than now. Capitalism is another form of force and control and hence anarcho-capitalism is not even anarchism. Religion is mostly used for control and is mostly a negative influence. |
| 490 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is not even anarchistic. Its a hierarchy between those who own property and those who don't. For primitivism to be achieved, many billions of humans must die. Individualism and Lifestyle anarchism don't achieve anything, bad strategy, the general population needs to be agitated. Christian Anarchism is not even anarchistic. Its a hierarchy between god and humans. CrimethInc is just conspiracies. Sectarianism divides us, we are stronger united. |
| 491 | 1 | universitis and the school system in general promote hierachy nd a priest-class of learned professors who are basically parasites. |
| 492 | 1 | capitalism means sucking off others so not anarchism. academics are often too comfortable talking about stuff they read from others and not doing or experiencing themselves. |
| 493 | 1 | I think capitalism and anarchism in anarchism is a big problem.. people cant be free when corporations and competition are ruling your life, capitalism creates hierarchy, just as governments and kings is like going back to feudalism in a modern way. |
| 494 | 1 | Because I don't deal well with language and so don't know what people are calling themselves or their movements. |
| 495 | 1 | - Primitivism strikes me as the near exclusive domain of middle class, white people/kids who take comfort in making very "radical" pronouncements that have no connection whatsoever to reality or factual history. It's pure and utter bunk. While the Primitivist critique of technology offers some interesting insights, taken to its natural conclusions, primitivism is simply a bankrupt and potentially very dangerous ideology. - Lifestylism is simply naval gazing, with little connection to the bro |
| 496 | 1 | for me there is just copperative anarchism for the whole society |
| 497 | 1 | Individualism and lifestyle anarchism, while the individual needs to have their "lifestyle" inline with their collective anarchist behaviours and actions, this, I feel, is as far as that should go. Even the title individualist anarchist sounds ironic to me. Anarchism cannot take place alone; the revolution will not come about because of one person! And christian anarchism, implies a separation from other anarchist of other religious background and spiritual beliefs. |
| 498 | 1 | I think Anarcho-Capitalism is problematic because it is still largely authoritarian. It's a perfect example of vulgar libertarianism in that it attacks the authority of the state all the while composing faithful arias for the big corporations. Some anarcho-capitalists are, of course, better than others. It's a sliding scale. Also, Anarcho-communists are problematic because they seem to think they can completely eradicate the market and that the market is not simply destructive in a corpora |
| 499 | 1 | Allot of other people whom I have met call themselves anarchists only because they was to blow shit up and loot. Which gives all involved a bad rep. And to me, just misses the point. |
| 500 | 1 | People should take care of each other. |
| 501 | 1 | I've not really explored sufficiently to develop critiques of specific trends. I would avoid insurrectionary anarchism as a pacifist and I thought that anarcho-capitalism was largely discredited (oxymoron). |
| 502 | 1 | By far the sectarianism has crushed any anarchist possibilities today. Having your own beliefs and sect is a needed thing, but you can't take it to the level of every sect claiming to be the only real anarchists, that all others are counter-revolutionaries, and only associate with your own sect. There needs to be a median between the two revolution-killing poles: vanguardism (demanding every leftist be under one more conservative sect with brutal crack downs on dissent within the movement, and c |
| 503 | 1 | Every idealistic version of anarchism provide a misunderstanding of capitalism, the state, class struggle and concrete revolutionnary perspective. |
| 504 | 1 | look, anarchism is one thing, what i think were seeing in the so-called anarchist scene in the bay area is more about the largely white male middle class demographics within it: its not a problem with anarchism. it cant be cuz mutherfuckers dont read. the egoism, self-loathing, paranoia, ignorace of privilege, emphasis on sounding academic and ruthelessly critiquing all hitherto existing society on a blog somewhere but never bothering to read anything or study history, entitlement, individualis |
| 505 | 1 | Because primitivism is anti-civilisation, is is anti-humanity. Primitive egalitarianism can never be returned to without mass death. Exterminationism is not a good idea. Postmodernist anti-ideological cynicism is just a slough of conservative "no radicalism is ever true and worthwhile" despond. CrimethInc are uneducated punks. Lifestyleism is petty individual liberation without any real movement in the direction of social change. |
| 506 | 1 | the lack of knowledge of what anarchism actually is and what it stands for, is the real problem today. the "fad" anarchist is what portrays a bad image of anarchy in society. the ones that get reckless and blitz and calls themselves anarchists because they are living this "free" lifestyle but they dont know the philosophy behind anarchy.. not to mention all the variety of anarchy. |
| 507 | 1 | Individualism is the mother of primitivism and the worst of insurrectionary anarchism. I was tempted to put insurrectionism as a problematic trend, but it's not insurrectionism itself that is the problem, it is the vulgar understanding of insurrectionism by "insurrectionists" that is the problem. I respect the insurrectionist critique of activism and the restructuring of the struggle to be coming from the affected communities, and I think that this is a positive trend from anarchist understandin |
| 508 | 1 | Capitalism, christianity, and sectarianism are long standing oppressors of the many for the benefit of the few, and this "nature" cannot be changed simply by plopping "anarcho-" in front of them. |
| 509 | 1 | There are class differences, everybody knows this. By identifying ourselves as a certain gender, a certain type of anarchist, part of a certain scene, or being a certain cultural heritage we're separating ourselves from everybody else. This leads to "I'm more oppressed than you so I should have more voice than you in response" and generates the exact type of hierarchical stupidity we're trying to fight. If we want to create a society without classes, we have to let go of class trappings first. |
| 510 | 1 | for me anarchism is a political philosofy that was born as a response to the problems that capitalism was creating in modern society. It was born after the industrial revolution and the conformation of the working class in large portions of the european continent, and for that it aims to reorganize and reestructure social institutions under a different perspective, based on a different mentality more in sinchrony with natural and social laws. It was born of the ideas of the illustration, from th |
| 511 | 1 | Individualism, because anarchy does not mean might makes right. because anarchism is and always has beenk a form of socialism, because 'toward the creative nothing' is one of the worst essays i've ever read. because Stirner, like Neitchze, was an important philosopher whose ideas anarchists can benefit from, but he was not actually an anarchist. Because for me, anarchism is about eliminating the dichotomy of individualism and collectivism. Primitivism, because the anti-civilization critiques a |
| 512 | 1 | Antisocial behavior is counterproductive, not to mention contrary to the goals of anarchist thought. Primitivism in particular, by rejecting development on perceived semiotic grounds, is particularly stupid. |
| 513 | 1 | very divisive and they miss the big picture and in doing so turn people away from the cause of bringing down capitalism. |
| 514 | 1 | Individualism lead to the subjugation of others if not kept in check. Primitivism is just retarded we cant look backwards, there is no golden age of noble savages just staving packs of proto-humans who would murder each other for food |
| 515 | 1 | imho primitivism is a great lifestyle choice but i disagree with it philosophically as a model for society too much scene drama, people need to quit whining about interpersonal crap and get to work |
| 516 | 1 | Those 5 seem deeply destructive to the anarchist tradition. The others, while I may not consider them my cup of tea, all have something to offer...and have offered me interesting and useful insights and perspectives. Academic anarchism is a bit of a mixed bag...some great effects, some troubling ones. It remains to be seen what happens to/with anarchism in the academy. |
| 517 | 1 | Some of these I don't know about, some I wouldn't support. |
| 518 | 1 | i love the life |
| 519 | 1 | since we cannot leave this planet,in less we commit suicide, we are all in this together. i feel the people who do not look at the over all social aspects of life are missing something. |
| 520 | 1 | Anarchy is by definition against hierarchy. Capitalism is all about hierarchy. There can be no meaningful and justified anarchy with the plague of capitalism still infecting it. |
| 521 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism--because it is not anarchism Primitivism--because ridding ourselves of technology would mean no more mass-produced HIV medications or wheelchairs. Fuck that. Sectarianism--Because it's unnecessarily divisive |
| 522 | 1 | I feel that individualistic anarchism will simply perpetuate forms of domination that anarchists are trying to dismantle and by it's nature prevent the spreading of idea that promote solidarity and symphathy (the same is true I believe for Anarcho-capitalism). Although I understand the reasons why primitivism may be favoured by some i think it is regressive, human nature changes depending on the conditions humans are subjected to and as a anarchist i think we should promote conditions which brin |
| 523 | 1 | They each either fail to be truly anarchistic or are to liable to be corrupted and used by a counter elite in the inevitable revolution. |
| 524 | 1 | Contradictions. |
| 525 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is mostly not related with social issues. Anarcho-capitalism is a mix of opposite ideas. We cannot have freedom in capitalism. |
| 526 | 1 | Academic anarchism - while I think anarchism absolutely NEEDS to be visible in academic institutions, it shouldn't be confined to that realm. Anarchism needs practice to go along with the theory. Lifestyle anarchism - I don't have any problem with people living the stereotypical "lifestyle anarchist" lifestyle, but activism has to go beyond individual lifestyle! On its own, lifestyle just isn't enough. I'm lumping Crimethinc into this. Some of the stuff they put out is great, some seems reall |
| 527 | 1 | There is too much division among far-left activists on issues that are not important in the immediate future considering that we first need to smash the state, seize the means of production, etc. |
| 528 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchists can't see beyond their own noses and have no consideration for long-term goals or outcomes. They alienate everyone, including other anarchists. How can you build a movement through alienation? |
| 529 | 1 | Private ownership of potentially large resources in the case of anarcho-capitalism does not seem much like anarchism, feasible, or ultimately much different/better than current system; Primitivism is unrealistic/relying on or hoping for massive genocide or population collapse, which may be better for the natural world but seems counterproductive as a philosophy. I tend to hope we can move forward. |
| 530 | 1 | "anarchists" who want to impose their ideas of property on other people's property are not anarchists. |
| 531 | 1 | primitivism - the name itself is fucking problematic. also, if enacted, it will cause billions of poor people to die, so yeah, no. lifestyle anarchism - aaaaaaaaaaaaaa shut up shut up shut up anarcho-capitalism - more like proto fascism amirite |
| 532 | 1 | "Anarcho-capitalism" shouldn't need explaining, it's like saying "Oh, I'm an anarcho-fascist". As for the rest - everything that´s too centered to the individual is dangerous (that is, especially, in the Western world where EVERYTHING today is "individual". In China or Iran, for example, individualism might have more significance. But it always need to be combined with collective thinking.) I don't see Insurrection, and especially not being academic, as big problems. I checked the boxes anyway |
| 533 | 1 | Sorry, the category "problematic" is vague in the extreme. All the listed categories have significant problems, although I would separate out "insurrectionary anarchism," "platformism," "anarcho-syndicalism," and "christian anarchism," as being "problematic" in largely a positive sense. That is, these (along with some others like "especifismo") are the categories whose "problems" must be resolved for anarchism to become a meaningful global movement. The others are just plain problems! |
| 534 | 1 | religion teaches people to be satisfied with rationalized explanations of the unknown instead of testing, researching and finding empirical evidence for the unknown. The fruits of science are used everyday, electricity, modern medicine, and all the wonderful technologies out there and we know these things exist and work because we can verify that by observation. When the same is applied to religion it falls apart as it requires faith (belief without proof) which is just plain ignorant. It is tim |
| 535 | 1 | I don't like the idea of capitalism (with or without a state). |
| 536 | 1 | Idividualism - not anarchism primitivism - not anarchism post-anarchism/ post structuralist anarchism - typically extremely sectarian and unable to communicate with an overwhelming majority of the proletariat. it tends to be a home for pedo defenders and other such anti-social nonsense crimethinc - not anarchism lifestyle anarchism - whats the point? anarcho capitalism - not anarchism sectarianism - the enemy of our enemy is our friend. as long as working with someone can advance our class |
| 537 | 1 | The self-proclaimed "anarchists" in the Chomskyan vein support things that merely makes them (in my opinion) state apologists. I don't think granting more power to the state in the short run leads to long term decreases in state power. I also deny that we have more control over the state than we have over the economy, since the economy is simply the collection of all market interactions and occurs on a daily basis, whereas elections only occur every few years and are decided as package deals whe |
| 538 | 1 | Well it realy depends on a country. Nowdays in Poland the strongest position in movement has anarcho-sindicalism, but in other countries is diffrent. In Grece the strongest is insurrecionary anarchism, in denmark lifestyle anarchism and so on. |
| 539 | 1 | If I wanted to, I could problematize certain aspects of any of these perspectives, including my own. But I picked Anarcho-Capitalism and Christian Anarchism simply because I cannot imagine any way to negotiate the contradictions between anarchism and whatever other "ism" they attach, and these are the two that I believe do genuine harm. |
| 540 | 1 | I find lifestyle anarchism leads to division among anarchists plus a competitive element ie who can be the most vegan, non monogamous, most eco friendly etc |
| 541 | 1 | It has nothing in common with free society.. |
| 542 | 1 | As long as people are happy and not oppressing others, nothing is technically wrong. |
| 543 | 1 | Seeing anarchism as a movement of "actions" (revolution, insurrection, personal choices) first means that tactics (violence, boycotts, etc) are prioritized over a transformation of social relations. |
| 544 | 1 | Primitivism: It halts technological progress. It's a slap to the face to our innate curiosity of figuring things out by instead opting for more "reliable" old ways. Christian Anarchism and Sectarianism are against the anarchist principle of unison and instead seem to try and divide anarchists. |
| 545 | 1 | for some, endemic shitty behavior doctrinaire approaches that are trotskyist type thinking (eg a platform that never served it own purpose in a century) capitalism is a big part of the problem sectarianism, or better put treating other people like an object of your own obsessions I would add collaboration. The number of people who collaborated in the Green Scare is atrocious. that government types targeted the anarchist movement and some of the behaviors they sought to promote are still a |
| 546 | 1 | Sow illusions - that the market can get us anywhere, that we can create a classless society without working class revolution... Or are obstructions and distractions, as with sectarianism |
| 547 | 1 | When people think of anarchists, they think of rowdy teenagers wanting chaos and destruction, and usually see anarchism as nothing more than statelessness. This myth needs to be dispelled. |
| 548 | 1 | Neither old stories nor new money should be a basis. |
| 549 | 1 | Primitivism bothers me, I believe that people would ultimately be coerced far more in a primitive society. |
| 550 | 1 | I don't generally like labels but I come from a socialist background and I fear from non-inclusive anarchists that do not take into consideration other people's feelings - whether they're anarchists or not. For me, anarchism is about co-operation and inclusion as I feel a man is a social being and any kind of ideas that promote specifically individuality is against my principles of sharing...Having said that, there is a lot of room for discussion between anarchist groups. |
| 551 | 1 | Anything that violates the NAP is pretty horrid. |
| 552 | 1 | Crimethinc, lifestyle anarchism, because they are sterile currents in that they reject the possibility of change through mass movements and organized class war. |
| 553 | 1 | no religion books in my info shop cause they burned um all. |
| 554 | 1 | there is only one anarchism; |
| 555 | 1 | Because they're either anti-social, not strategic, contraditory or harmful to bringing about revolutionary change. |
| 556 | 1 | I should say that I only have concerns about Christian anarchist who want to preach. Otherwise, I can respect that. I can easily slip into sectarianism and, sometimes, do want to disassociate myself from groups. Still... I am an anti-capitalist. Think I always was before I even knew what it meant or understood it. It's a screwy philosophy full of holes. I am a pacifist. I can't stand preaching - reminds me of the Socialist Workers. This leads to leaders. Too many anarchist gr |
| 557 | 1 | Despite the basic diffrences in thought of all humans, anarchists have a greater challenge of organization and unity. Without first setting aside the minor differences between anarchists, we will be unable to unite. |
| 558 | 1 | Viloence makes for bad press and strengthens the veil of legitimacy. Statism - Man people claiming to be anarchists support growing the government for chosen programs, or to use state violence to reduce behaviors they don't like. |
| 559 | 1 | Technology is the future, the primitivists deny it. you can't deny the future if you plan to shape it. |
| 560 | 1 | religion and crime dont go well with anarchism |
| 561 | 1 | If the ends are the same, but the means are different, different groups should work together when it makes sense instead of writing each other off because of different approaches to anarchism. Myopic adherence to a specific mode of anarchism will limit what we're all able to do. |
| 562 | 1 | We need more people with critiques of capitalism and the state, not more in-fighting and pathetic movement-attacking behavior. I don't care what kind of anarchist you are. Just don't call the cops and be in solidarity with other anarchists. |
| 563 | 1 | The trends that I have identified as problematic have in common that they manifest themselves as a politics of self-expression and anarchism-as-identity/commodity, rather than anarchism as a practice and philosophy that help us organize better ways of doing things at work, in our communities, and in our lives. |
| 564 | 1 | I'm bothered by the tendency of some (a few? too many?) anarchists to 1.) band together around a few styles and icons (e.g., punk, hippie, circle-A logos, etc.) that constitute a kind of easily commodifiable "brand" (and that tend to perpetuate anarchism's whiteness and masculinism) 2.) fetishize violence -- mainly rhetorical -- as radical in itself, while demonizing pacifism and nonviolent tactics as "liberal," etc. 3.) seek fulfillment in largely negative, sporadic, unsustainable, a |
| 565 | 1 | anarcho-capitalism is just bat-shit crazy, and the others are puritanical and culturally elitist |
| 566 | 1 | I think in order for anarchism to work, there needs to be a sense of community and commonly shared things amongst the people. As far as Christian anarchism goes, that just limits the amount of possibility and excludes people who may have the same ideologies. |
| 567 | 1 | I do not regard anarcho-capitalists as anarchists. Insurrectionary anarchists make it easy for people to side against anarchy, and don't accomplish much, as far as I see it. |
| 568 | 1 | It does nothing to keep us together, and focuses very hard on what our differences are. Reminds me of the current 2 party system in America. |
| 569 | 1 | There are inherent problems with dogmatic religious views tainting any societal structure. As well as the backwards looking and self-secluding Individualism and Primitivism that will separate us as a species, leaving more room for misunderstandings and aggression. We need to work together but in a way that does not compromise our individuality. |
| 570 | 1 | Violence at this point in modern global society is no longer a means by which to go about realizing anarchist society, because of the attitudes towards violence from grassroots organizations, no matter how noble the cause may be, it will only make people afraid of anarchism. The exception would be the Zapatista Army of National Liberation. Primitivism is no longer viable, technology is simply too far progressed. There is no way to rid us of it, it's penetrated too deeply into all aspects of soc |
| 571 | 1 | I don't have much time to complete this, so I cannot. |
| 572 | 1 | im a marxist i oppose capitalism im a militant atheist i oppose religious influence in society |
| 573 | 1 | I don't find restricting yourself dogmatically to a specific idea or doctrine as progressive and would rather leave ideas open to change. |
| 574 | 1 | Communism is every property is held in common (socialism - means of production are held in common), but I think that for personal freedom I need own my space living, my flat, which is only my, not under control of collective. IF collective may desicion-making about flat where are living I have no safety before desicion-making of collective. |
| 575 | 1 | we all face different challenges, depending on the cultures and places within which we dwell. everyone cannot use the identical tactics everywhere. we should try to be supportive of one another as much as possible. that being said, i know there will be uprisings in the future. any anarchists who continue to go along with their lives without joining in the insurrection should be dealt with the same as any other servant of the status quo. |
| 576 | 1 | Anarchists seem to prefer dying on a moral pedestal rather than step down from it to live their lives. |
| 577 | 1 | as i see all phenomenon are inter-dependent, and the [Tick]the -ism above in my opinion have the tendencies to "isolate" and "alienate" issues connected to a "larger scale" ... but to some extent i am also ignorant to the -ism, philosophy, thought, concept |
| 578 | 1 | Individualists don't understand that anarchism is all about mutual aid, not living for yourself. Insurrectionists don't understand that anarchism is all about creating, not destroying. Anarcho-capitalists don't understand that capitalism is the creator of so much of the oppression we are trying to fight. |
| 579 | 1 | I don't consider 'individualism', 'anarcho-capitalism' and 'christian anarchism' to have anything to do with anarchism; the fact that they are mentioned here is making the definition of anarchism blurry, which makes them problematic. 'Insurrectionary anarchism' and 'Lifestyle Anarchism' are not effective ways to battle capitalism and states, primarily because they are either linking anarchy to chaos and destruction, or turning anarchism into a struggle carried out by individuals. 'Primitiv |
| 580 | 1 | I think individualism is really bad! I consider Lifestylism, Academic, Crimethinc, Capitalism, and Inserrectionary anarchism all really vulnerable to individualism or blatantly indivisualistic i.e. anarcho capitalism. I think that building solidarity toward a revolutionary movement is what we need to do, and anything that does not bear that in mind will be really clique oriented. I really hate that!It makes me feel claustrophobic. It also tends to make anarchism a mostly white middle class thing |
| 581 | 1 | primirivism-reactionary way other trends i chose do not sound good |
| 582 | 1 | Cause these have nothing to do with the social anarchism, with the struggle of the society |
| 583 | 1 | Anything which doesn't stress communist content and the self-activity of the class, and rather fetishizes sectarian debate about form is problematic. The degree to which insurrectionism, platformism/ especifismo, or syndicalism do this, is the degree to which they are also problematic. |
| 584 | 1 | I feel that they are outdated and irrelevant. They are deeply embedded with Leftist qualities and, agreeing with the post-Left critique, I see Leftism as antagonistic to truly liberatory aspects of anarchy. I find that they are more concerned with formality than anarchistic social relations. Action speaking louder than rhetoric, their attempts to ideologically manage and represent those in revolt frustrates me. Their organizational forms and acceptance of collectivism is antagonistic to individu |
| 585 | 1 | generally dont see importance of working class organisation or building such a movement;likewise, class struggle or internationalism. Worrying trends in platformism that support national liberation movements. Didnt tick academic anarchism as academics form their own little niche and generally have an educational role to play. |
| 586 | 1 | Because 'anarchists' usually turn out to be fucking mental fruitloops and are naturally attracted to likewise ideas. |
| 587 | 1 | I think insurrectionists are just violent hippies. They mean well but their tactics are ill planned and childish. They want the same things as I do politically but their tactics for the most part are extremely counter productive and unstructured. Even when their tactics work they do not have a lasting or meaningful effect on society as a whole. What is worse is they tend to divide the working class further by pissing off hard working people with their shenanigans and tomfoolery. Primitivism |
| 588 | 1 | anarchists sould cooperate, be united, not sectarian and open |
| 589 | 1 | I believe Capitalism in any form should be abolished. |
| 590 | 1 | Can a person who's stridently against capitalism succeed in capitalism? What do you mean, why? I want to punch my bosses in the face. |
| 591 | 1 | What is the point of all this? |
| 592 | 1 | I fear that primitivism may result in the death of an unacceptable amount of people. Academic anarchism: because anarchism should be a ethical practice based on organisation, rather than just an arid thought excersise. Lifestyle and crimethinc: has been co-opted by capitalistic/bourgeois indenty-politics Capitalism: The ultimate form of hierarchy along with armies (if you can make that distinction at all) |
| 593 | 1 | I think its important to work towards cooperation. Dividing anarchists in sects is not helping an already margenalized group of people. |
| 594 | 1 | Anarchism CAN BE co-opted as a cultural identity that serves to streamline social relationships, which has fostered a new consumer market. Though underground and small-scale, the market exchange of anarchist cultures' by-products (i.e. punk/folk music, academic texts) provide a mode for young/new/faux anarchists to feel "active" and involved in a theoretical movement. In reality, they are making no contributions to change beyond their own ego. How do we create active ranks of folks working on |
| 595 | 1 | Anarcho Capitalism and individualism is not constructive at all for a new world. |
| 596 | 1 | All anarchist trends that is, by itself, sectarian, reformist and self-centered is a problem for anarchism. |
| 597 | 1 | Though I admire the courage and critiques presented by Green Anarchists, it can walk a thin line with apocalyptic libertarianism. Many strains of anarchism (green anarchism more than most) lack any kind of analysis of political economy. |
| 598 | 1 | Primitivism is unrealistic. Post-anarchism is too wishy washy. You can't have capital without a state. Christian Anarchy is Christian. Sectarianism doesn't help anyone. |
| 599 | 1 | Because some of these tendencies are largely anti-organization and largely unproductive, at least in my experience. Sometimes I honestly don't think subscribers to some of these (primitivism or some insurrectionists) are even on the same side, unfortunately. Sectarianism is our death. Fuck the free-market (ie- anarcho-capitalists. And I'm not one to overall condemn academics, but they've got to at least do something besides read and write, so that one's with a caveat. |
| 600 | 1 | i juts live the way i want, i don't feel the need to over intellectualize it with all these unnecessary labels. |
| 601 | 1 | Primitivism makes no sense in Aotearoa - we never had a hunter-gatherer society. Post-anarchism is meaningless academic cant. Crimethinc/individualism is unable to create the level of organisation needed to take down capitalism. |
| 602 | 1 | Anarchism does not mean alienation from society as a whole, but a desire to alter the current status quo. Individuals cannot survive alone. Anarcho-capitalism does not truly put power into the people's hands, but opens up the door for corporations to exploit us. Primativism may work for some, but I generally believe that technology is beneficial, with the exception of some weapons. |
| 603 | 1 | To each it's own. |
| 604 | 1 | Capitalism creates inequality. The school is nearly autocontradictory. |
| 605 | 1 | Some of these things are more problematic than others. The tendencies checked off below (as not anarchist) would be the most problematic. The other ones are problematic insofar as their adherents reject organization, which necessary to win any struggle. |
| 606 | 1 | Hyper-academia, and in particular, American expressions of insurrectionary anarchism. There is an over-emphasis on "make total destroy" without any means by which to support one another. We have the desire but not the means to create change out of conflict. Rather than spending time manipulating space and focusing on communities that already exist and becoming allies with regular-ass people, we protest summits. Summits are not anarchist space. If we want them to be anarchist space, we must appro |
| 607 | 1 | I think anarcho-capitalism, lifestyle anarchism fails to attack capitalism. Primitivism ignores the benefits that technology in a liberated society can achieve. (For instance, computers/internet are valuable tools to creating decentralized, non-hierarchical organizational structures). |
| 608 | 1 | join the 21st century, leave the religion in the 20th. power in numbers. |
| 609 | 1 | capitalism is self-explanatory, the other forms are guilty of the same egoism. christian anarchism is a contradiction in terms. |
| 610 | 1 | We need organisation to gain progress to an better society. If people not willling to bulid up (and be part) of self-gouverned organisations it is only a philosophy. |
| 611 | 1 | they seem to be incapable of coherent thought. |
| 612 | 1 | None of these are very compatible with social/collectivist forms of anarchy or they do not target the real problems. |
| 613 | 1 | May each choose a system or collective as suits their interests. |
| 614 | 1 | Because individualistic, lifestyle and capilatistic anarchism all lead to unjust hierarchies. And other anarchists spend too much time arguing with people from these tendencies. |
| 615 | 1 | I have a friend who has pretty individualistic anarchist values, and sometimes it makes him less agreeable. |
| 616 | 1 | i mean anarchism like a teenage lifestyle, just pose. Telling everyone im anyrchist, but doing nothing and knowing nothing about it. |
| 617 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism, as it is called, is a false concept invented by Wikipedia. National Anarchism is soem laughable crap that has recently fallen idle in California, but needs to be confronted should it arise again. Lifestyle anarchism is not anarchism, but punk travelling or liberal living. Platformism is really just a form of progressive democracy. Academic anarchism has no standing in praxis or the real world; it is purely existential and thereby worthless. |
| 618 | 1 | in my experiences trying to find a community that shares my values, it's been hard to find solace through self-professed anarchist groups. group dynamics are bizarre; it's rare to have exploratory conversations on racism, gender in a safe place. class privilege is a topic uniformly shut down with little regard for the class differences within a movement- for example, could financial privilege (money for fundraising, mutual aid, access to media and other powerful figures) aid our struggles? i |
| 619 | 1 | I feel as though violence alienates people. The general public believes that anarchy is only the riots that get into the news or the bombings that kill innocents. Instead of getting people to come together to end the hierarchy of society that is keeping us alienated from each other, the violence only serves to alienate those who don't participate in it. Community efforts like food not bombs and free schools would be a more effective way of showing people how anarchy could improve their lives |
| 620 | 1 | Because individualism/market anarchism is petit-bourgeois bullshit. Lifestyle anarchism is a joke and waste of your life. Crimethinc is for rich kids to whom being poor is a fashion trend. Primitivism is a disgusting tank of horrible ideas and mindless idiots who don't even think for themselves. Insurrectionary anarchism is romantic bullshit and a good cover for not having clear political objectives. I don't know what post-anarchism is, but its probably fucking stupid. Christian anarchism is stu |
| 621 | 1 | I consider anarchism a category for any philosophy or practice that reaches the conclusion (at some point) of negating authority, rule, and domination. Though that is loose, I feel it creates room for focusing on life more than on theory. All of the systematic anarchisms are subject to antiquation and inductive reasoning, so I think approaching the world through any anarchism (rather than concluding one is an anarchist from constant learning/analysis/trial) is a bad idea. |
| 622 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalists are not against heriarchy, thus they are not anarchists the rest make pro organizational anarchists look crazy, thus they make my job harder. |
| 623 | 1 | For me anarchism is more about re-structuring society as a collective rather than trying to make society to respect individuals more. In nowadays capitalist mentality (talking about Europe/1st world) it leads to other, more-sofisticated form of inequality, still based on money/commodities. For me is for example fair trade only nicer way of enslavement, not tool of ascending liberation of workers... |
| 624 | 1 | Being focused mainly on issues like environment, art, theory without practice just doesn't work. Anarchism was always pro-social ideology, focused on workers/poor people rights not sth like burning down technology and going back to the trees. |
| 625 | 1 | Crimethinc/Lifestyle: They alienate people from anarchism (apart from punnks and hipsters of course); they have very in little in common with anarchism (ie class struggle and working class self-organisation); they encourage escapism rather than confronting the forces of capital; they have no concept of what class is, and rather than listen to others they just say how academic we all are, etc. etc. Individualism: In terms of Tucker and people, it's silly as it rejects class struggle so will neve |
| 626 | 1 | if civilization collapses, i don't really care if a few people hang out with bows and arrows cuz i'll be dead and the collective experiment will have failed and the shattered pieces of the ecosphere that are left won't necessarily be worth killing for. the christian anarchists are peaceniks and that kinda pisses me off, because Jesus was a sage and a prophet and an avataar but he got himself KILLED BY THE STATE, and that's supposed to be your ultimate example? Constantine ate that shit up. ag |
| 627 | 1 | An island is always surrounded. |
| 628 | 1 | I SWEAR TO GOD IF I SEE ONE MORE BITCH-FIT BETWEEN INDIVIDUALISTS AND COLLECTIVISTS I WILL LOSE MY DAMN MIND. |
| 629 | 1 | Anarchism is about deconstructing the domination of one person over an other. It is not a "fuck all yall" with me on top ideology. |
| 630 | 1 | Lack of solidarity, split groups etc. |
| 631 | 1 | The labor theory of value is BS. |
| 632 | 1 | The majority of anarchists in my area hold a complete contempt for class struggle. Without a class analysis they find themselves without any coherent logic for explaining why the world is as f**ked up as it is, and so resign themselves to creating libertarian social relations amongst their personal friends and focusing on single issue activism, as opposed to the original revolutionary goal of removing capitalism. Their emphasis on anti-authoritarian relationships creates social norms in their gr |
| 633 | 1 | Many anarchists today "resist progress in the name of progress," to quote FM-2030, and many cannot break out of the confinement of traditional and self-limiting ideologies, "striving in obsolete ways to obtain obsolete goals." This is especially implicit in economic systems. Whether socialist or Laissez-faire, the system is still based upon scarcity and social Darwinism. These underlying assumptions are rarely questioned. No one is focused on ending work, and using technology to create a |
| 634 | 1 | If one is actually anarchist to me than they will help challenge the destructive system we live in, and I want to have solidarity with those who agree, whether they have different ideas of what it means to be anarchist. If they identify as anarchist as a baseline, than by my definition they are an ally. Minus anarcho-capitalism, that to me isn't anarchist. We in-fight far too much in the US. I'm tired of people being intolerant to different ideas of anarchism when we can't live any of them i |
| 635 | 1 | Technology is our friend and human life has great value and untapped potential. This belief system essentially runs contrary to that. |
| 636 | 1 | Inability to organise FOR working class people, talking is fine and dandy but helping people is far more important. We need anacrhist charities, schools, financial aid, hospitals. Modern anarchists arent doing enough to help. |
| 637 | 1 | They eventually must initiate force to bring about "collectivist" ideas. |
| 638 | 1 | To me, the largest problem areas in the spectrum of anarchism are, in order, sectarianism, academic anarchism, anarcho-capitalism and to some extent trends of individualism. The biggest disservice we can do to furthering anarchist causes is expend valuable energy arguing amongst are selves. Specific ideas about what an anarchist future will look like, how it will function and what values it will support are very important. However, when these become stumbling blocks to moving forward, in sol |
| 639 | 1 | I don't consider individualist/primitivist strains of anarchism to adhere to the class struggle history that is so important to anarchist thought. |
| 640 | 1 | They often believe that their force is somehow moral whilst the present State is not. I have nothing but contempt for hypocrites. |
| 641 | 1 | My biggest problem is the actual trend itself. (for ex. as stupid as it may sound) I feel like a doucher if I wear my flannel shirt... I miss wearing that shirt. Have you ever seen a sea of flannel? |
| 642 | 1 | CrimethInc: not enough economic focus or analysis Anarcho-Capitalism: a way for the ruling class to try to twist their victims into supporting them Sectarianism: a problem in any movement, I suppose |
| 643 | 1 | Many groups of anarchists function like religious groups, very closed, sectarian and kind of anti-social. |
| 644 | 1 | Sectarianism, in my view, seems to be incompatible with the spirit of anarchism and freedom. Anarchy, in my view, would entail a plurality of solutions to social organization and what works for one group or individuals would not work for everyone everywhere. |
| 645 | 1 | While most of the differing tendencies can exist alongside each other, I feel that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with anarchism, and thus anarcho-capitalism's reliance on it is problematic. |
| 646 | 1 | Primitivism is self-flagellation, anarcho-capitalism leads to heirarchy based on wealth and Christian Anarchism protects the reactionary religion. |
| 647 | 1 | the arguments espoused by most anarcho-capitalists including me a few years ago, make the mistake of letting property rights stand over human rights sometimes. |
| 648 | 1 | It seems that there can be a wide range of acceptable differences, but some groups I feel are actually detrimental to others. |
| 649 | 1 | I am not sure that anarcho-capitalists are really anarchists because they believe in hierarchy within economic relations. Anti-capitalism is an important part of what I mean if I call myself an anarchist. I'm not saying they're all bad, they've done some great campaigns on things like drug rights and eminent domain for example, but there are times they seem to want to make things worse rather than better, e.g. cutting back the welfare state. I'd rather have anarchist welfare than a welfare st |
| 650 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchism because i feel that reasoned debate and education is the way to move things forward. Anarcho-capitalism for fairly obvious reasons ie capitalism is destroying the planet! |
| 651 | 1 | Sectarianism (which is tied with platformism) leads to sepratism of different groups of anarchists. There is no just one anarchism, at least it is my oppinion. |
| 652 | 1 | I believe anarchism is firmly rooted in Enlightenment ideals and therefore can't be religious. Also it grew out of socialist ideas, therefore can't be individualist or primitivist etc. |
| 653 | 1 | The problem is that some anarchists have the view that anarchism is the apex of political development and that all the work that needs to be done is to convince the rest of the world. No political philosophy is even done, it is always a work in progress. I highly object to this hatred of markets. I am not an anarcho-capitalist but I think that markets, used correctly, can be a useful way of allocating resources. |
| 654 | 1 | Besides National Anarchism, which, in my view, is nothing but fascism in the guise of anarchism, probably the most problematic to the anarchist movement are Primitivism and Anarcho-Capitalism because of the fact that both ideologies are inherently hostile to the working class. The others that I checked off, in my view, are not particularly helpful to our movement but I'm not hostile to them or their adherents in the way that I am towards National Anarchism, Primitivism, or Anarcho-Capitalism. |
| 655 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism really isn't Anarchism. I'm also strongly against any political philosophy that preaches the need for violence or revolution in order to be successful. The same goes for anything that requires existing systems (i.e. Capitalism) to collapse before anything can happen. Also, I believe in moving forward, not backwards, i.e. the answers lie in technology (at least in part). |
| 656 | 1 | I feel that divisions and 'career' anarchism/activism push non anarchists away from the movement. People who get so caught in being an anarchist and speaking the anarchist lingo tend to push non-anarchists away. |
| 657 | 1 | First of all, lifestyle is a given and based on free choice and circumstances (in a capitalist society, often lifestyle choices are precluded by lack of income). Academic anarchism is a contradictory term because unless you are a member of the upper class or wealthy, you cannot have the luxury of academia. Chrimethlnc is something imposed by a system of laws which are rejected on premise in anarchism. |
| 658 | 1 | Because the anarchism is a struggle against the oppressions and that the capitalism who creates and conveys the most of the oppressions. |
| 659 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchism is too undisciplined to mean anything. In my experience, Platformist groups essentially just function as wannabe Leninist cults. They generally do not believe in liberation, have very little clue as to exactly what democracy entails, etc. Likewise, it sounds as if they wish they had a State. If that's their orientation, that's fine (I have many statist communist friends), but don't fucking lie about it. Anarchist Capitalism is only a problem because it is a contradic |
| 660 | 1 | These things are not anarchist. |
| 661 | 1 | It is up to the individual to find their own way. To follow a set of directives, any dogma of any name, is to be an operational element of a governance. |
| 662 | 1 | I'm not really that familiar with a lot of these. I would say that anyone promoting violence is probably doing more harm than good, but there may be cases where it's justified. |
| 663 | 1 | The insurrectionists want the insurrection without building infrastructure and with no foresight. The platformists ideas and worldview are antiquated and untenable. Lifestylists don't understand that dropping out in no way challenges the state and capital. And academics and simply muddling through in hopes of getting university tenure, most often positioning themselves and their "intellectual work" as enough, keeping them from risking prison or fighting in the streets. The divisions between all |
| 664 | 1 | No. I don't feel like explaining it. I've written 8 essays today, and I just do not want to. |
| 665 | 1 | I think Anarcho-socialism is a contradiction. Socialism establishes a "public good." A public good should be non-existent in anarchy. Individuality and personal responsibility is most important. |
| 666 | 1 | Might seem weird I have listed both Anarcho-Capitalism and Anarcho-Communism, but I also despise Anarcho-Capitalism which forgets social issues and promotes selfishness. There is always compromises to be made to reach agreement, these two branches are extremes which do no attempt to reach it. |
| 667 | 1 | Although I think unions are great for organizing workers, I do not like the emphasis that Syndicalism puts on using this to influence the political sphere. Sectarianism weakens the entire movement. |
| 668 | 1 | Every kind of anarchism on that list I can learn to live with, and with enough imagination/compassion, can see as being "on the same team." Anarcho-capitalism, however, is a fucking joke and shouldn't even be on the list at all. |
| 669 | 1 | People that isolate themselves from the community around them are not Anarchists. The whole lifestyle/ crimethinc crowd live like the working poor live now; dumpster diving and living off nothing. Like they have to prove they can fit in with the poor. |
| 670 | 1 | They restrict individual and don`t take responsibility of their own choice. |
| 671 | 1 | religion seems to get out of hand with most people. to elaborate, i mean some people may become self-righteous. |
| 672 | 1 | Individualism is a part of anarchy, but far from the only part. |
| 673 | 1 | There are no problematic trends in belief when the core fundamental concept is free will. |
| 674 | 1 | I believe anarchism has to go to mass line orientation to achieve goals. |
| 675 | 1 | I can't answer the last few questions because I don;t know what most of the lables mean! |
| 676 | 1 | people get too worked up about problems within anarchism, it's way too early to start eating our own :) |
| 677 | 1 | Shit, we just need more anarchists all-together and less sectarian shit. It's the same struggle against domination. While there are different fronts and we need to criticize each other, we also need more solidarity and less internet bullshit. |
| 678 | 1 | Individualist Anarchism and Anarcho-capitalism I believe to be heirarchal and that big business will quickly create another state. Lifestyle/Crimeth!nc is meaningless, and has no partr in worker's struggles. Primitivism is a vile ideology which seeks mass genocide for a Malthusian end. Christianity is a reactionary force and most Christian Anarchists do not aim for social revolution and are thus pretty useless. |
| 679 | 1 | some of these are problematic to ME because of the hierarchical behavior that tends to follow them. |
| 680 | 1 | Close to liberal ideology |
| 681 | 1 | We are not unsophisticated primates. Equality can not be achieved in a capitalistic society Christianity fosters in-group mentality which equates to out-group suffering. |
| 682 | 1 | I don't think academic (or even post-) analyses are inherently problematic, but a huge chunk of the people who self-identify with them are. |
| 683 | 1 | They have a degenerating effect on anarchism, if they are anarchist at all. |
| 684 | 1 | I didn't put down the others because I can't say I've noticed their being problematic lately due mainly to their non-existence, although they are silly. Except anarcho-syndicalism, what's wrong with anarcho-syndicalism? |
| 685 | 1 | Anarchism does nothing to improve the human condition if compassion for others is not the main focus. |
| 686 | 1 | I'm interested in developing an informal and flexible approach to the class struggle. I think a critique of technology's role in class domination is important, but primitivists create a lifestyle fetish out of this critique. On the other hand, platformists tend to abandon the class struggle in favor of a different lifestyle, which is permanent organization building. We've seen the results of decades of this (the FA in France or FAI in Italy were bigger for many years in the 50s-70s than many |
| 687 | 1 | Individualism is disrespectful of the fact that we live in a work with other people. Primitivism is disrespectful of the usefulness of technology. I think insurrection is necessary but hard to practice given the current political climate of where I am. I don't know much about Platformism, Isn't that what socialists do though? My experience of socialists is that they are vanguardist and thats disrespectful of the revolution. Academics is weird. the exchange of ideas is fine but there's gotta |
| 688 | 1 | Primitivism makes us look ridiculous to working people and insurrectionism can be used for an excuse for irresponsible actions such as the recent killing of bank workers in Greece. Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron. |
| 689 | 1 | Academia, always has its time, place and a platform, why else would aspirant anarchists/isnts always be sprouting Proudhon, Althusser, Bakunin, Marx, Barthes, Lacan, to justify their point |
| 690 | 1 | The shell model cannot work. |
| 691 | 1 | Most anarchists I've encountered are primarily concerned with looking out for themselves and hypocritically criticizing others that don't fit their mold of what an "anarchist" should be. many also buy into the crimethinc style of anarchism as well as authors like jensen without thinking critically about how their lifestyles and actions affect the community they live in. |
| 692 | 1 | Ohhh... complicated. Primitivism is unsustainable, Academic is stuck up, Lifestyle is hipster-ish and capitalist is anachronistic. |
| 693 | 1 | Primitivism is only related to anarchism through the freedom to choose that lifestyle. Our problems are not because of machines, they are from an evolutionary block (totality) that has, so far, not allowed us to use machinery in a way to make us socially closer. Lifestyle anarchism reminds me of the term "practice pianism". Closer to fundamental christian anarchism is dangerous, it leaves a psycological soil of not questioning and philosophical individualism. |
| 694 | 1 | Pissing off the ignorant does not help turn them on, it just makes you look like a cunt. |
| 695 | 1 | Much of these [actively] work against community organizing. Most of these folks that I have personally known disappear from anarchist circles quickly. |
| 696 | 1 | The wholesale rejection of Science and believing in Earth Spirits or whatever is stupid. Given the fact that the development of Mathematics was a movement that originally came from artisans, miners and people who were considered the lower classes, and the fact that real Science requires people to actually participate, confusing Science with the Scientfic Establishment, then retreating to some stupid makebelieve sky daddy or forest spirits or whatever, or worse, being racist and coopting another |
| 697 | 1 | The Insurrectionary anarchism cause all we got is more repressin Anarcho-Syndicalism cause they just wait and see |
| 698 | 1 | Anarcho Cpitalism is not anarchism. Primitivism is a blue print for a world with a tiny fraction of the population we currently have and no method to get there beyond a massive die off. No thanks. Post-anarchism just seems to be a lot of intellectual posing |
| 699 | 1 | This is what I think is wrong with anarchists today. They dont get anything done. Anarchists lack a clear goal, both short term and long term. Another thing is they dont analyze the costs and benefits of solving the problems they identify, or how effective their solutions are, both short term or long term. For instance, protesting is a massive waste of time, but anarchists do it all the time. And every day an anarchists goes to work is a loss, as their are being paid by an employer who wouldnt p |
| 700 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is not anarchist. Illegalism hinders in creating sympathy for the anarchist cause if practiced in the wrong way. |
| 701 | 1 | I don't know enough of these types of Anarchist groups to discredit them. I think the only problem with anarchy (and this is more of an outsider perspective) is the view that anarchy is chaos. |
| 702 | 1 | They all make us look nuts and they damage our (little) credibility. They also have even lower chances of success than mainstream social anarchism. |
| 703 | 1 | A tendency to focus on being free of quilt rather than changing the world. keeping themself pure by growing their own food or buying fair trade products etcetera. not that diferent from protestant christianity. this morality will also make it harder to attack capitalism in its contemporary form. Like green capitalism etcetera. the classical industrial capitalism will probably loose position to so called ecological producers and companies that that combines wellfare with the sales of commodities |
| 704 | 1 | The anarcho-capitalist movement takes little influence from anti-authoritarian sociological ideas. I personally think that libertarian socialists should be trying harder to reach out to anarcho-capitalists. Many of them do truly wish for a better society for workers, but it seems that a large percentage of ancaps haven't been properly exposed to the ideas of anti-state socialism before. I personally was an ancap for about a year before realizing that constant anti-state socialism could exist. |
| 705 | 1 | Primitivism is unsustainable because technology is powerful, and those who reject it will get shouldered aside by those who don't. Post-structuralism is contradictory because it rejects totalizing ideologies but is itself one. In general, I think the basic struggle is between individualism and collectivism. I'm an individualist, but I think too many self-styled anarchists fall on the collectivist side of the divide. That's fine by me, so long as they're willing to leave me be, but collec |
| 706 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is not anarchism. |
| 707 | 1 | Primitivism: I hate this shit because it is utopian romanticism. The 21st century the best century to live in. There was never this great century before the revolution of technology that was so much better then what we have today. Insurrectionary anarchism: I don't like insurectionary anarchism because it calls for the futile sacrifices of deep thinkers that call themselves anarchists. Insurrectionary anarchism champions anti-individualist, anti-materialist self-sacrifice for the cause of an |
| 708 | 1 | The core mission of anarchism is evloping cooperative enterprise, community, social networking |
| 709 | 1 | Anarchism with money and bosses is not Anarchism to me. When I think of "anarcho-capitalism", the movie "Road Warrior" comes to mind. The "free market" is a figment. I'd no sooner believe in a pink unicorn. However, they are free to think whatever like. |
| 710 | 1 | In Czech republic, but also in other countries i observed, it is hard to really involve in the activities of rather sectarian and arogant anarchist communities. The movements are quite often very self-absorbed and sucked into subcultural lifestyle, thus inable to persuade wider society. Anarcho-capitalism is a direct enemy of every sane anarchism, it shouldn§t be considered part of the movement at all. Christian anarchism, is again very marginalized, and built on fairy tale dogma, which denie |
| 711 | 1 | Platformism try to define what Anarchism is and must be for all. The Academics are too far from daily life and tend to live a bourgeoisie life style. The Capitalists are not Anarchists and we should have no connections to them. And I can't consider Christians as anything but submissive bigots. |
| 712 | 1 | Divisive or ineffective tactics. Either way doing very little to contribute to the revolutionary scope of changing one's world for the better. |
| 713 | 1 | Academic and pretentious anarchist philosophy is gross, it exists in a vacuum. Anarchism is supposed to be lived and practiced as life! |
| 714 | 1 | Anarchism should be about building popular movements aimed towards constructing collective freedom, community, and a society balanced between the needs of the collective and the individual. I believe that individualism is an outgrowth of privilege and has no place in a liberatory movement, primitivism is unrealistic and non-liberatory as well, and trends like crimethinc, lifestyle, etc., are just that trends. They are more about feeling good about one's politics and expressing empty rebellion |
| 715 | 1 | Anarcho-syndicalists and other types of anarchists tend to focus so much on their disdain for capitalism that they forget the reason capitalism has been so harmful: the state has had its hands in it, allying with business. These anarchists focus so much on smashing what they see as capitalist exploitation that they forget that the real enemy is coercive violence, and the largest source of coercion, the state. |
| 716 | 1 | In short, Academic Anarchism plays into existing stereotypes of "leftists" (or whatever) being out of touch with working class people. When I hear someone starting talking about some mostly obscure historical or philosophical point, I tend to turn off. And it's not because I don't care - I'm interested in expanding myself intellectually. But because if someone is talking about that to other people, they obviously aren't coming from a place where they can use concrete, everyday examples from t |
| 717 | 1 | People think because the world is corrupt and fucked up that it gives them the right to destroy and take what they want from it. I'm more of Lysander Spooner Thoreau kind of guy if you don't like the system don't involve yourself with it. |
| 718 | 1 | Too many people who identify with Anarcho-Captitalism are often "vulgar libertarians", apologists for the corporate ruling class. They often support reactionary property systems. |
| 719 | 1 | I think that anarchists should resume their activities back in Ralt which already are developing moments of rebellion ends in themselves and to understand that the same end in itself is a loser because it can be easily ridden by conservative forces to unleash wars among the poor. I think what happened here in Italy with the problem of immigrants quickly become a threat to workers redundant. I think the riots against the landfill, then become a war between mafia gangs for waste management. |
| 720 | 1 | For one, i do not feel individualist, anarcho-capitalists are actual veins of anarchism. Also, primitivists and lifestyle anarchist, and post-anarchism from my experience, do not have a solution for the problems of day to day life or a strategy of how to change the here and now. Their focus is to much on either restoring society to some Utopian pre-agrarian stage, living their own lives in a certain way, or an more apolitic stance of critique. |
| 721 | 1 | I am afraid that there is a fundamental problem with the human condition which we have not overcome yet wherein we are overly self interested and deeply bound by the forces of the status quo. I look forward to the continued growth of our human community and I hope that we will face a spiritual/empathic/just/kind/golden oriented revolution before we kill ourselves or our planet. |
| 722 | 1 | this trends are problematic because they are totally out of the ground of reality. anarcho-capitalism is just another way to dictatorship of money. primitivism and insurrcionary anarchism want to ensure us that society is barell of gun powder and we must only set in on fire. there are more important and effective ways to change society. and i think some strange phobia for modern science technologies of primitivism is just mind abberation. |
| 723 | 1 | Have nothing to do with anarchism |
| 724 | 1 | Individualism: divisive, atomizing, destroying social relations Primitivism: anti-human Insurrectionary: obsession with violence and immediate revolution rather than institution building Post-anarchism: not enough action Lifestyle: see post-anarchism Sectarianism: divisiveness |
| 725 | 1 | elitism except for anarcho-capitalism which is just pure bullshit. |
| 726 | 1 | cause being a fake-anarchist is trendy |
| 727 | 1 | Most either have nothing to do with class struggle, or if they do, act as the left wing of capital - they recuperate struggles back into capitalist dead ends. |
| 728 | 1 | Most of the anarchist milieu is politically shitty. |
| 729 | 1 | Because the two words involved in the description of the noted ideologies are oxymorons. And yes, I meant syndicalism too. |
| 730 | 1 | Central control is necessary in any communist society. |
| 731 | 1 | This could go on. |
| 732 | 1 | I find Christian Anarchism to be a sort of an oxymoron. Christians believe in a higher power, a ruling force if you will, that makes free will basically non-existent. If you're spending your life disregarding the mortal plane with dreams of the afterlife, I don't believe you can seriously be that concerned or active in the goings-on in urgent political matters in our lives. |
| 733 | 1 | Anarchism seems to me too closely identified with subcultural lifestyles and often feels more like a social/cultural thing than a political one. |
| 734 | 1 | they put anarchism in a close background. i think class war is our first weapon and these trends dont help |
| 735 | 1 | You have to be against capital and against the state, so thats a social collectivist basis. Both Insurrectionary and Platformism are problematic in terms of their stratergy, one apes vanguardism and the other is anti-organisational. |
| 736 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is just capitalism with a name that disgraces REAL anarchists. It has the same inequalities and class hierarchy as any capitalist state and can't really be considered a form of anarchism at all. Primitivism seems to forget the whole purpose of individual liberty, which is to allow people like artists, philosophers, and yes, scientists to freely move society forward without being held back by economics and censorship. There is nothing inherently evil about technology, just t |
| 737 | 1 | secterianism divides us |
| 738 | 1 | capitalism and anarchism doesnt mesh and it is pointless if we believe in that, that is contradictory to the beliefs of anarchism and its pointless because we just creating a ruling party |
| 739 | 1 | Mainly just have a problem with the people who are the most self rightious and the hardest to work with. The people who try to cause problems amongst their peers instead of amongst their enemies. |
| 740 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is a lie, academic anarchism and the platformist both need to acknowledge and leave behind their tendencies towards recuperation/control, but in general all anarchists need to accept that the best path is multiple. |
| 741 | 1 | They are nuts |
| 742 | 1 | because all the above trends that I have picked lead to lifestyle anarchism that leads to unpolitical groups of people and acts that resemble fascist acts. |
| 743 | 1 | Anarchism must serve the group and look after every individual. Perhaps one of the funny titles means that! ;-) |
| 744 | 1 | They are not advancing or are actively retarding actual anarchist theory and praxis. |
| 745 | 1 | Post-anarchists are unintelligible to the general population. Although it might make for an enjoyable read, their academic approach will be a turn-off to many. Primitivism just ain't gonna happen. Technology has the ability to liberate if it is used responsibly. Post-scarcity arising from technological innovation is a likely enabler to Anarchism. I don't see any of these as a threat to the movement, rather, just different perspectives. |
| 746 | 1 | Well first of all, why can't well get along? Truthfully, I think the answer is a little of all of the above and a little more. |
| 747 | 1 | Unity of purpose is massively important. Anarchism is weak because it can't get over itself. Focus on the practical which includes collaborating with trends you don't agree wit completely and especially cooperating with nonanarchists in certain activities |
| 748 | 1 | white people in the us aren't hungry enough to get really pissed off about the way in which they're being consumed. |
| 749 | 1 | They do not, in a big enough extent (if all) base their theories on a mass organisation of the working class, thus neglecting the huge force that exists within the working class. |
| 750 | 1 | Anarcho-Feminists tend to be sexists towards male people, and I've seen a lot of hate :( Lifestyle it's just a lifestyle.. If I got it right :) |
| 751 | 1 | Anarcho-communism, or anarchism socialism or any of the derivatives, all require that human nature change. Since this won't happen, in fact cannot happen, the result would be to enforce these rigid systems turning those who claim to be anarchists into not merely statists, but totalitarians. |
| 752 | 1 | Anarchists are generally idiotic douchebags. If I cared I'd wake up crying every morning. |
| 753 | 1 | There is too much focus on our differences. The time will come when we need to recognise that we are all in the same situation of class oppression and recall our similarities. People from all different branches of anarachism should be associating with each other and reminded of the common goals we share. |
| 754 | 1 | the ecological movement has its roots in nazi ideology. also, john zerzan has publicly stated that he believes that the kkk is a misunderstood social movement. where is antifa when you need them? crimethinc. is unrealistic for any people of color because in order to abandon elements of culture or society, you have to had access to them to begin with. also, no analysis of race. |
| 755 | 1 | I have problem understanding how it is possible to include something like sectarianism into the great anarchist family. Anyhow, if one can accept it in the family, i will stand against it (and therefor include it in my list of problematic trends). I have problems with the ones i checked because they are going against the very basics of anarchisme, from my point of vue. These three : Anarcho-Capitalism, Christian Anarchism and Sectarianism. Each one promotes something going against the anar |
| 756 | 1 | I've found that the position of an extreme focus on the individual, to the extent that they disregard almost all concepts of social solidarity, is ultimately unworkable. Beyond that, I think all of the other trends have much more in common with each other than differences, especially compared to the dominant culture. |
| 757 | 1 | I'd say you could've lumped individualism, lifestylism and CrimethInc together. I wouldn't consider primitivism, lifestylism or anarcho-capitalism to be genuinely anarchist at all, and the platformists are a little too close to the left for my liking. I don't think the insurrectionists are that bad, but a lot of their texts are unreadable and they can fuck things up for others at times, as with the Belgrade 6 for example. |
| 758 | 1 | ...2 much 2 say,how about talking over coffee |
| 759 | 1 | Im not sure, maybe ,middle class students etc have the luxury/ability to objectively look at society while, poorly educated poorly paid real working class people struggle so much theres no time/energy left in them for revolution |
| 760 | 1 | 1) I would like Anarchists to agree and oppose the state. Practical steps to implement most anarchist ideals will be identical in the beginning. Let's start implementing those steps that everyone agrees with like ending state subsidies and bailouts to corporations/banks. Repealing the pieces of the state apparatus like military industrial complex and argue about differences when we get to them. 2) I would like to see more anarchist solidarity. I may disagree with an Anarcho-Communists on |
| 761 | 1 | As long as the ethos doesn't center around a state or a de facto monopoly on power/coercion/force than everything is fine. |
| 762 | 1 | Some trends of anarchism are sectarian and even dubiously authoritarian in their operation at times and this can be detrimental to the movement. |
| 763 | 1 | Too much focus on individual righs without focus on responsibilties inherent in rights. IE: I have the right to throw a brick on your protest, but no responsibility in otherwise making that protest happen. "I" have the right over the collectve "you" which is very dangerous when taken to it's logical extreme. Not to mention these are tendencies completely divorced from the working class and in fact, largely disdainful of working people. |
| 764 | 1 | CrimethInc: I have noticed (in my area/group of friends) that it has made many people who felt anarchy was completely ridiculous one day, into 'full-fledged' anarchists the next. I have nothing against people whose opinions change, however a lot of them seem to find it a novelty and just seem attracted by gatherings, riots, protests, and so-on and so-forth. It seems like more of a fun thing to do while they're still young, and many of them don't really understand exactly what it is they are f |
| 765 | 1 | Because anarcho-capitalism replaces the State hierarchy with a non-State hierarchy, one which isn't even accountable through traditional means, ie elections. |
| 766 | 1 | capitalism breeds coercion |
| 767 | 1 | Individualism (most variants) and Anarcho-Capitalism are market liberal philosophies. While they are critical of hierarchy, authority, and the state, like other anarchists, they do not extend this critique into market relations. Other individualistic outlooks are not compatible with the deeply social, communistic, and egalitarian focus of my values and beliefs. I think that lifestylism, and related trends, are not capable (or even concerned with) building mass, directly democratic social mo |
| 768 | 1 | "Anarcho-Capitalism" is not part of the anarchist tradition and serves to blur the meaning of the term (i.e. a world without hierarchy). Primitivism would require that most of the world's population be dead, as most people depend on technology and the resulting infrastructure and agricultural productions. Enjoying a higher standard of living (as measured by things like lifespans and infant mortality rates) should not necessarily clash with sustainability. It in fact depends on it. Post-Str |
| 769 | 1 | ancaps are not Anarchists, they do not oppose heirarchy |
| 770 | 1 | Those sections are based primarily on false assumptions and have far reaching and detrimental effects. They also premise themselves on using force to rid the world of force. |
| 771 | 1 | Such philosophies undermine the anarchist movement with their lack of political cohesion. |
| 772 | 1 | Real Anarchism (Red and Black Anarchism) = Freedom from tyranny Bullshit Anarchism (Anarcho-capitalism) = Freedom for tyranny. |
| 773 | 1 | Too much focus on defending capitalism against fascists and doing demos instead of actualy doing some proper community and workplace organising. The anti-fascism one in particular annoys me because we're actualy defending capitalism from them, rather than anything worth preserving. We need to focus more on having an alternative to offer people rather than bieng on the defensive all the time. |
| 774 | 1 | Sometimes well meaning people just havent learnt enought about whatever it is theyre fighting for - pros, cons, alternatives and long term effects etc. |
| 775 | 1 | Much of the thought from these trends lack a foundation, are highly inconsistent, Western and moralistic. Anarchism is an ideology with a foundation, not a word which can be invoked for any anti-statist activity. Insurrectionary anarchism has been long dead and proved to be an ineffective way to mobilise for social change - "You can't blow up a social relationship". Anarcho-capitalism is basically an online Ayn Rand fan club who like the 'sexiness' of anarchism - nothing to do with anarchism. |
| 776 | 1 | Primitivism - unrealistic alternatives, romanticizes "uncivilized" societies Academic anarchism - possibly the worst. The ivory tower is largely irrelevant to most of society, and it encourages participants to make their ideas unnecessarily exclusive, elitist, and complicated. Academics use jargon to obscure ideas and make themselves seem smarter than we are. Post-anarchism - Post-structuralism is a flawed ideology which, like other academic ideas, hides behind unnecessary jargon. That jarg |
| 777 | 1 | Anarchism is suppose to be highly organized and constructive. Nihilism and pointless destruction is counter productive. The black bloc is doing nothing for us or the cause. |
| 778 | 1 | A society without rulers is incompatible with the hierarchicaltendencies of capitalism. |
| 779 | 1 | Anarchism without socialism is a rich kids fantasy. Socialism without anarchism is ... well we've seen enough of that already. |
| 780 | 1 | Anything that tends to divide those that battle the state I see as problematic. Let us first dismantle the evil, then determine how we can forge a life beyond it. |
| 781 | 1 | Modern society tends to atomize us and reduce our efforts for collective liberation. I think unless we're working to break down the barriers that allows hegemony to marginalize us we're not really part of the movement. Primitivism I associate with some of the worst aspects of Buddhism, practitioners often withdraw from the world and live in an imagined utopia. |
| 782 | 1 | seems like a contradiction to me |
| 783 | 1 | I feel that Lifestyle young anarchists can be swept away by complete, simple arguments of primitivism, lifestyle and academic thought and lose sight of what anarchism is and where it came from and where it is supposed to be going. Also anarcho-pascifism is a major problem. |
| 784 | 1 | because anarcho-capitalism is argubly not a real type of anarchism, and reinforces the notion that capitalism and the state are anti-thetical to one another when the y are in fact two sides of the same coin. i said sectarianism because there is too much criticism of anarchists by other anarchists, even within non capitalist anarchists. we should emphasize that other anarchists (ancaps aside) would be better than the one we have now. |
| 785 | 1 | Individualism seeks to deny our social nature, and can often lead to individualist rather than collective action. Primitivism is just an outlet for people who want to sound more radical than thou - neglecting the social nature of technology and the huge die off that would be needed. Insurrectionary anarchists often seek to substitute the actions of small groups for genuine class action. It's a form of vanguardism. I'm not against the Platform, but my impression of modern platformist gr |
| 786 | 1 | People will never abandon the concept of private property. It is ingrained in who we are as a species. Any system that seeks to destroy or remove the idea of property is, by nature, coercive. This coercion creates a force hierarchy between at least two parties. I think any anarchist who uses force or coercion is dishonest or deluded. |
| 787 | 1 | "Christianarchy". Seriously? Whoever concocted that farcical pairing of adjectives needs a good bonk on the nose. |
| 788 | 1 | Primitivism is, to me, avoiding the issues and wishing for the "grand old days" where many forget the widespread disease, tribal warring and poor health care not to mention the laundry list of other problems. People, seeing what science and industry can provide them, will not willingly return en mass to that type of living. Not to say that primitivists shouldn't have rights to live the way they want on their own, but they will find less support than they are hoping for I think. Anarcho-capita |
| 789 | 1 | EVERY ANARCHIST IS MY SLAVE |
| 790 | 1 | I dont understand how Anarchy and Capitalism can possibly work together. |
| 791 | 1 | The reality is that primitivism's end goal is a world in which individuals are incapable of exploring or innovating past a certain point. A society cut off from rigorous empirical examination will never be capable of understanding the stars or molecules no matter how much woo-woo they dick around with. Not only would our knowledge of the world be constrained, our minds and lives would stagnate. This is not liberation. |
| 792 | 1 | To be a true practitioner of anarchy, an anarchist, one must strive to eliminate all domination, exploitation, and oppression. To liberate oneself is to be only marginally better than a capitalist. To be concerned with the liberation of only one group of people or one species is also selfish and not true to anarchy. Anarchy to me means destroying capitalism, exploitation, and harmful expressions of selfishness. Anarchy to me is to live for yourself, your community, your Mother Earth. To better o |
| 793 | 1 | Lack of realism Followers of ideology some just dumb |
| 794 | 1 | Misunderstanding or denying class conflict and it's roots in property. |
| 795 | 1 | Nearly all of the anarchist trends that I chose are so incredibly different than the tradition of anarchist thought that has helped to build popular movements and create any sort of genuine change that I feel they only distract from what I would consider to actually be anarchism. They seem to attach the label anarchist purely to feel cool, rather than from any actual connection to, or understanding of, the ideas, history, and strategies of anarchism. Insurrectionary anarchism I would put out |
| 796 | 1 | Basically its all good if it leads to change. I was worried about primivism for a while. Libertarian anarcha-capitalist hippie drug dealers who don't pay their dues to the revolution bother me. Primitivists who can't wait for humanity to go extinct remind me of born agains waiting for the second coming. They are both part of a millennial tendency in humanity that pops up in anarchism also. I am basically opposed to opportunists making a buck off of anarchism and end of the worlders who only want |
| 797 | 1 | they're not accept the collectives rules, the federalism, the societal organisation. they don't want to |
| 798 | 1 | Individualism is nothing but covert liberalism, with anti-capitalist rhetoric, and easily integrated into the status quo. It also leads to lifestyle anarchism that has nothing to do with social emancipation, since it prioritizes individual autonomy higher than social autonomy. However this is problematic, since no real individual freedom is possible in a repressive society. Anarcho-Capitalism is nothing more than extreme neoliberalism and has nothing to do with anarchism. |
| 799 | 1 | the more folks willing to self-identify as anarchist, the merrier. if they're at all curious about and interested in learning more about anarchism, they're probably on a good course. |
| 800 | 1 | Anarchism must be grounded in collectivities and supported by a majority in order to change permanently the system in which we live in. |
| 801 | 1 | I clicked IA and sectarianism both. They go to together. Faux-academic jargon that only appeals to a small group and if you disagree with them then you're a liberal and an enemy. I mean cmon really? as for A-Caps, you can't be capatilist and anarchist. |
| 802 | 1 | Because private property (or rather, absentee ownership) is the root of our problems, not the solution. |
| 803 | 1 | I think that anarcho-capitalism and christian-anarchism are both contradictions, that to have them is to be inclusive to the point of being absurd, and I think that lifestyle anarchism is to be too exclusive and that it breeds an insular, divisive community that is not in the spirit of anarchism. |
| 804 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism has nothing to do with anarchism. It is wholly about unlimited power for a few - in spite of its adherents' protests to the contrary. Lifestylism is the dead-end of activism has no potential for anarchism to be a working class mass movement. |
| 805 | 1 | No capitalism, No religion |
| 806 | 1 | Religion is a form of control. That's why it was created, to explain the unexplainable before science was advanced, but more importantly, it was a way for a ruler to assert power over his people. Rulers told people that they h.ad divine right to rule. The idea of a higher power was put in place to scare people into obeying with the fear of damnation embedded in their minds |
| 807 | 1 | Primitivism seems to be anti-human the ones I've heard from. Insurrectionary anarchism seems incredibly short-sighted and elitist. Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron. |
| 808 | 1 | There will not be some grand platform. One, some, or all of the different schools of anarchism will work. One, some, or all of the different schools of anarchism will fail. These things will sort themselves out. Also, people are different. Some are gregarious, outgoing, and community minded, and some just want to be left alone. There will be no prescription. There will be no proscription. The chips will fall where the chips will fall. |
| 809 | 1 | A primitivist society would require the loss of scientific knowledge. In a hypothetical situation, the farther primitivists advanced their cause the less they would be able to propagate it, and the greater their disadvantage against those retaining technology. My experience of crimethinc is through their propaganda. It is playful and it can be entertaining and cathartic. I described their D.I.Y. guide to a non-anarchist friend as "a field manual for hooliganism". |
| 810 | 1 | CrimethInc is lifestyle anarchism. It can only be done by rich boys (usually white) Academic anarchists usually just write books about theory and don't actually do any practical stuff. Anarcho Capitalism, is not anarchist but capitalism. Primitism is stupid. |
| 811 | 1 | Unsure of the terminology (sorry!) - Two types of anarchism are problematic IMO 1) The "anarchism" as practised by individuals/groups who view it as nothing more than chaos, thus lowering the reputation of true anarchist principles 2) What I like to call "Bureaucratic Anarchism". I.e. the type which can be found in many universities, often undertaken by philosophy students who talk of action, not realising what action is by definition. Imagine the People's Front of Judea. |
| 812 | 1 | As far as anarcho-capitalism/market anarchism is concerned, there are far too many problems with this crazed philosophy to expound upon in a short survey. Sectarianism is the plague of the modern anarchist movement, particularly the perceived (and, I believe, false and unnecessary) divides between reds and greens, and the age old individualist/communalist dispute. |
| 813 | 1 | I think primitivism is throwing the baby out with the bath water, and chooses to throw away everything that civilization has wrought, both the good and the bad. I believe that this approach shares the same disadvantage as Insurrectionary anarchism, which is that it's more likely to turn people off than get them to buy into anarchist principles and programs for social change. I think individualism and "lifestyle anarchism" both are vulnerable to turning inward and away from confronting soci |
| 814 | 1 | People have to think realistically about how to effect mass social change and they have to consider the effects of technology and the environmental crises as well as all different forms of oppression and those not yet named |
| 815 | 1 | Usually because it's idiots trying to paint our entire movement as idiotic |
| 816 | 1 | Becomes an intellectual discussion focussing on ego rather than action for the common good. |
| 817 | 1 | primitivism - overly nostalgic for a period of human history that faced many of the same social inequalities contemporary society faces. Assigning a universal judgment upon any period of history strikes me as a logical fallacy. anarcho-capitalism - muddies the distinction between anarchism and the more selfish forms of individualism. Nationalist Anarchism - advocates racial separatism. |
| 818 | 1 | bubble POP! |
| 819 | 1 | Unexamined privilege, ignorance and dilettantism. The abovementioned do not have to be products of these processes, but it seems to me that those who have these problems can do damage when they embrace the abovementioned; the abovementioned can marginalize devotees from working class concerns |
| 820 | 1 | An intra-anarchist debate, if conducted in good faith, ought to be softer than a normal political debate. Politics in general is about what mode of organization ought to be imposed. Anarchism is characterized by the idea that organization, particularly hierarchical organization, ought not be imposed, and indeed should be opposed. So when an anarchotweedledee disagrees with an anarchotweedledum, either the disagreement is about ethics or a prediction, or the debaters aren't really anarchists a |
| 821 | 1 | I believe the individualists and egoists have placed too much of a stranglehold on the debate and have created a place for justification of anti-social behavior and unnaccountability to the collective entity |
| 822 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism - imho its not anarchism at all Primitivism - not constructive CrimethInc - not constructive + bad "PR" |
| 823 | 1 | I would question why "anarcho"-capitalism is done, as it is NOT a form of anarchism. |
| 824 | 1 | Not anarchist |
| 825 | 1 | Primitivism is not just an opposition to the state and capitalism; it is an opposition to human society in its entirety. It is predicated on an anti-humanism that values the completely value-less environment and natural world. In addition to its theoretical flaws, it is completely impractical; local primitivism would result in a speedy loss of all social structure, while worldwide primitivism would result in this as well as worldwide starvation. Sectarianism, quibbling over ideological detail |
| 826 | 1 | Christian anarchism will turn its people towards lifestyle anarchism, due to the inevitable death of God in the minds of the poor Christians and the absence of a non-delusional conception of reality. Lifestyle anarchists will conglomerate in their communities and travel sometimes and one day they will have jobs and houses and farms and maybe, if they remember anything, they'll be ready to help everyone else who takes anarchism seriously. Sectarianism needs to end, of course, as soon possible |
| 827 | 1 | Lifestyle: North American anarchism seems to have become something of a scene where verbal and written critique becomes so obscure as to be nearly incomprehensible. All the while lifestylists travel about from scene hot-spot to scene hot-spot ramming the newest anarchist esoterica down the throats of every potential radical. Creating a culture of debilitating meta-critique where nearly all act is criticized and denounced for the sake of scene-drama. Such an environment is not only paralyzing |
| 828 | 1 | Individualism, because nothing can be built if people stay alone. Academic and Christian Anarchism because it's non-sens : if there is an Academy, or a God to follow, it means a leader power, so it's not anarchism... |
| 829 | 1 | I find that most anarchist trends lack either an organisational focus, or a good understanding of identity politics, (or both!) I think both are necessary |
| 830 | 1 | Capitalism by its very nature creates elites with power over others.That's not AN-archy. |
| 831 | 1 | Anarcho capitalism, individualism and sectarianism involve separation of people (which cannot be done) and exploitation (capitalism) |
| 832 | 1 | The boxes I ticked cover people who have no real understanding of class, which is just silly ("post" anarchists/CrimethInc), enemies of the class (Primitivists, who would kill us all to save the bunnies). Sectarianism is a huge problem. We refuse to work with other socialists because they are not 'pure' enough in ideology- listen to the average anarchist on the subject of "Trots" and any right-thinking person would be disgusted. Platformists and Syndicalists shout at each other despite agreei |
| 833 | 1 | Given that anarchism is an attempt to reduce / eliminate violence and coercion, I find it hard to imagine a proper justification for using violent/coercive techniques to promote the use/creation of nonviolent/noncoercive social structures. |
| 834 | 1 | I think we too readily accept people as anarchists by the labels they use. Many of those above, I wouldn't include in my political camp at all. That's not being mean, we just totally don't agree. For me, anarchism is about class struggle. |
| 835 | 1 | They are either ideological or classist or simply not objecting capitalism. |
| 836 | 1 | Anarchism looks like a subculture at times, while history has shown that I can be a workable ideology for society (Makhnovia, Spanish second republic etc.) |
| 837 | 1 | the ghetto style anarchism I often witness in the larger cities frustrates the crap out of me. I feel it is a reflection of our communities failure to offer an alternative to the self indulgent nonsense that the lifestyler's seem to foster. If we were more confident in ourselves and were prepared to use the resources we have we could see a rapid increase in our numbers and influence in our wider community. |
| 838 | 1 | Really, I'm not well versed enough in the differences to give a solid answer here |
| 839 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism, though a somewhat problematic label, limits the effectiveness of anarchist organizing. Platformism espouses the view of federalism, with though I have no personal experience organizing with, I disagree with it's use in an anarchist model. |
| 840 | 1 | some of these don't fit well into my live-and-let-live philosophy |
| 841 | 1 | Anarchism today is alienated from most of the exploited classes due to not only the extreme repression its activists have received but also to a lot of tendencies who claim to be anarchist but actually have nothing to do with anything that the anarchist movement has fought for except the elimination of government, tendencies that vary from primitivism and religion to capitalism, nacionalism, and post-modernism. Besides that, in a lot of societies, antisocial subcultures transformed anarchism |
| 842 | 1 | too much infighting and in all honesty too much liberalism |
| 843 | 1 | capitolism is the reson i became a anarchist why would i keep it |
| 844 | 1 | got to work together |
| 845 | 1 | Capitalism is to easy for individuals to gain the right and power to oppress those below them in terms of capital gain. |
| 846 | 1 | Moreso than any other branch, anarcho-syndicalism's North American adherents do not seem to have developed any analysis beyond the 19th century and its European adherents seem to be indiscernable from leftists. Anarcho-capitalism is so deeply rooted in liberal thought, and i find that problematic. |
| 847 | 1 | As they do not apply tactics/strategy that will increase our power as a class. |
| 848 | 1 | not productive. |
| 849 | 1 | Contradictary |
| 850 | 1 | By sectarianism I am particularly concerned with sectarianism directed at left organisations & the 'softer' elements of activism. I feel the goal of platformism/espeficismo is to establish productive connections with others who can contribute to social change. Ruling others out due to frequently inaccruate perceptions hampers this and increases our isolation in society. On the other hand, if relationships are unproductive, we do not need to engage in them. Hostility is rarely productive. |
| 851 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchism maintains the cliche about mad bombthrowers with no thoughts or ideas for the future. It creates a macho culture of one-upsmanship and streetbrawls which, ultimately, lead nowhere. It creates unnecessary tension within the broader anarchist movement and an atmosphere of fear and paranoia, instead of inclusion and comradeship. Primitivism struggles for a world in which I would not want to live. |
| 852 | 1 | Tendencies are anti-working class and are alienating the working class from revolutionary ideas. Some are blatantly pro-capitalism. |
| 853 | 1 | Too many damn rules made by other people. |
| 854 | 1 | I don't think primitivism has anything to do with anarchism. It gives us social anarchists a bad name by association. |
| 855 | 1 | Whew, gonna be hard to keep this one short. Quite honestly, I am about ready to stop identifying as an anarchist because I am so embarrassed to be associated with many anarchists I meet. I am so tired of sectarian infighting on the Left, between anarchists, and between anarchists and other Leftists. I think many anarchists have internalized their fear of structures and institutions (from the bad ones like our gov't, most organized religion, etc) and spend a lot of time fighting with each other a |
| 856 | 1 | No connection to real life. Exclusive, elitist subcultures with nothing to offer working people aside from some shitty crafts. No connection to real life. No connection to the conditions of work. One's privileged ability to 'drop out' of work...or to go back and forth between gutter-punk and suburban upper-middle-class...simply can't be the primary cultural basis for a mass-based social movement...particularly one which is supposed to disproportionately benefit the most oppressed. |
| 857 | 1 | Individualism is just a nicer way of saying liberal (in the European sense where liberal = right wing market orientated) and not really caring or taking an active role in making the world better. Seems to me that Anarcho-Capitalism is also just a nice way of saying liberal in the European sense: Capitalist, market rules. Christian Anarchism depends on the kind of Christianity and how dogmatic and fundamentalist it is. |
| 858 | 1 | Individualism: Because, in my opinion, it's got nothing to do with anarchism, which is based on the collective responsability towards each other. The same goes for the other's iv'e chosen. |
| 859 | 1 | Radical indiviudalism, platformism and poststructuralist anarchism share a similar problem - absolutism. Indiviudalists look inwards and see themselves as the absolutes, platformists do the same with the platofrm while post-anarchists have a reductionist and jaundiced view of the past. All lead to sectarianism which is bad in and of itself. |
| 860 | 1 | As an anarchist w/out adjectives, I see economic and tactical divides as secondary or optional to our shared goal as anti-authoritarains. In a hypothetical anarchist society, it is highly likely people will be free to choose economic and social models among those theorized by anarchists. Contemporary anarchists should not impose restrictions on hypothetical future anarchists. |
| 861 | 1 | Each is problematic. If taken toward an end of identity and not contextualized, its just role playing with life, and that is problematic. Its that disposition that is the problem. Each identity can be appropriately acted on in real situations, but not every situation. |
| 862 | 1 | As a transsexual womon, I'm afraid that certain primitivists and certain socially-conservative anarcho-capitalists would try to exclude me from society. I want a society which allows everyone to thrive, even someone like me. Ultimately, that requires an egalitarian and individualistic culture. |
| 863 | 1 | counter-productive |
| 864 | 1 | I don't know, but I really fucking hate Christian Anarchists. |
| 865 | 1 | visit freedomainradio.com |
| 866 | 1 | I think capitalism is intrinsic to the state, at least in our current model of western government. People who are calling for "smaller government" for the most part are just calling for decreased business regulation and limitation of social services. |
| 867 | 1 | Well...Individualism, post-anarchism and anarcho-capitalism, all share the same underlying assumption, i.e. the world is made of atomised individuals seeking to fullfill their own immediate needs regardless their social position and relation to others. As if societies don't exist (TINA!!!)...Specifically regarding post-anarchism, it is associated to the PoMo turn in the social sciences and humanities as a whole and doesn't deserve much credit. Check out the Sokal debate...About anarcho-capitalis |
| 868 | 1 | Left-Libertarian is not logically consistent. I.e., it contains contradictions. |
| 869 | 1 | i think there's a huge trend toward breaking off into smaller and smaller groups and reinforcing the destructive american ideal of individualism within the anarch*ism movements. i don't think that anyone can accomplish anything while we're all fighting with each other about who's more radical. |
| 870 | 1 | capitalism is a form of authoritarianism. By embracing the market and wage labor, anarchists are embracing hierarchy. sectarianism is problematic due to the inability to communicate ideas outside a small circle of friends. |
| 871 | 1 | I believe primitivism is counter-revolutionary. By reverting to a primitve lifestyle we will see a lot more inequalities. For example, without modern healthcare to provide women with safe abortions and safe child-birth they will become more dependant on men to provide for them should they be forced to have unwanted children or become injured through child-birth or "self-abortion." Insurrectionary anarchism is very alienating to a lot of people, especially working class people who might otherw |
| 872 | 1 | Those two groups seem to me to have too little in common with the rest to be able to work together much. |
| 873 | 1 | they are part of the left-wing of capitalism, not revolutionary or against capitalism |
| 874 | 1 | Most of the individualists have elitarian and/or bourgeois viewpoints on class struggle/economy. Lifestyle anarchists isolate themselves from the broad population and disregards the potential of anarchism for the masses, insurrectionists have failed theories on social rebellion and tend to scare the working class from joining their protests. CrimethInc because of its focus on individual needs (and greed) in favor of collective solidarity and mutual aid. |
| 875 | 1 | it is we (all anarchist types) against them (the rest), no need to let us split by such topics! |
| 876 | 1 | Lifestylism is stupid bullshit made of Hot Topic kiddies Anarcho-capitalism isn't even anarchism. DERP CAPITALISM DERP FREE MARKET *drools* |
| 877 | 1 | Individualism: leads to a strange place. Many individualist anarchists identify as market anarchists. I feel as though a market, any market, would create inequalities, and ultimately just create capitalism lite, which would yield something along the lines of what we have to say. I also perceive that we know more about how humans function within a group. Hence, I find some philosophical shortcomings in individualism. Primitivism: I do not think language, mathematics, or all technologies |
| 878 | 1 | Anarchism is about responsibility to the collective, not individual autonomy. |
| 879 | 1 | As a post-scarcity anarchism, I believe technology has significant emancipatory possibilities and that industrialization doesn't have to have negative effects. I therefore believe primitivism and other back-to-the-wilds strains of thinking reject the redirection of industrialized society to benefit all peoples without giving it due consideration. I think they have an excellent critique of progressivist historical perspectives, but that it is misapplied. Anarcho-capitalists need to simply iden |
| 880 | 1 | They contradict some of the main tenants of Anarchism in general (Self-Interest, submission to a god, disregard for what is considered 'natural', capitalism, etc.) |
| 881 | 1 | I don't regard many of these options as anarchist (see subsequent question). Although I am personally rather sympathetic to anarcho-syndicalism in practice it is, apart from the Spanish CGT, an isolating tendency. That's in Europe anyway. It sets up pure groups and expects the masses to come to them. And gets very touchy when other anarchists attempt to form coalitions with non-anarchists. This leads to sectarianism, which is obviously probematic. |
| 882 | 1 | Each of the anarchist ideas can relate to a group of people, individuals, or communities more than another. A factory worker with a family may relate to Syndicalism or Communism more than Primitivism or Insurrection; while a community with a strong local currency may lean towards Mutualist tendencies. Speaking of which, where's Mutualism? |
| 883 | 1 | primitivism easely develop hierarchies lifestyle usualy is only facade ancapitalism is hierarchical, not anticapitalism, and do not guaranted freedom sectarianism is not social and end whitout real activity |
| 884 | 1 | I'm unsure what sort of anarchist trend is represented by "Crimethic"; I've never heard of "Post-anarchism/poststructuralist anarchism" unless if refers to Bookchin's tendency; "Lifestyle anarchism" is only and always a meaningless derogatory term applied to specific anarchists (or a given tendency) that the user of the term dislikes. I don't know what if any difference there is between your "Anarcho-Primitivism" two boxes above and your "Primitivism" in the box above; same with your "Individual |
| 885 | 1 | we should not be labeled, we should be free to make our own fuck-ups, and then see what is coming to us, if we hurt one another. |
| 886 | 1 | Anarchists such as Noam Chomsky who claims to be a libertarian socialist are the kind that fly the black flag but talk about democracy, and want government reform. Anarchists shouldn't be pushing for reform, but abolition. That is the trend I have a problem with. It's inconsistent and not effective. |
| 887 | 1 | It's illogical bullshit. |
| 888 | 1 | I sectarianism as a major problem between anarchists and socialist. Why can't we all just work together. We all share some common threads. |
| 889 | 1 | Primitivism - I feel that networking and global trade are keys to a workable anarchist future. Insurrectionary anarchism - Violence of any kind plays into the hands of pro-state forces and ignores the fact that this is a battle of ideas, not force. |
| 890 | 1 | As a Christian, I am required to be a pacifist. As a pacifist, I cannot support government, and thus am an Anarchist. Anarchism is the only way of "governing" that can be condoned by Christianity and the words of Jesus. Anarchism is a beautiful ideal, but will fall apart if left to petty practices of the world and of the empire. Violence, individualism, and intolerance of any kind (even intolerance of those who are intolerant) has no place in an anarchist society and thus poses a large threa |
| 891 | 1 | I am not sure what Platformism refers to. I believe that our ecosystems and our social networks are literally dying because of capitalism and uber individualism. I strongly believe in mutual aid and solidarity, in direct action and cooperation. |
| 892 | 1 | I think it's important for anarchists to have a strong sense of community (i.e. not to focus solely on the individual) and also to work on making their theory applicable to modern society, without ending up creating too many warring factions. It's important to understand and work with political difference rather than attacking and exacerbating it. Plus, if anarchists can't have a laugh sometimes, we'll all go crazy! |
| 893 | 1 | I'm opposed to insurrectionary anarchism as the process of active insurrection leads inevitably to the taking of personal libery from individuals. they may be wrong, but the revolution must come from the independant volition of individuals for it to truly meet it's ideals. I'm opposed to lifestyle anarchism and anarchocapitalism because the are both fundamentally not solidarity or equality, which are two of the three pillars of anarchism as a movement. so they dilute the message. |
| 894 | 1 | In my opinion I would not mind about differences in ideological believes so I believe that it is bad to stick too much in collective labels. |
| 895 | 1 | Anarchist are often isolated, even by other anarchist, and seem to be stuck up in there titles. If we spent half as much time organizing, fighting and living anarchism as much as we talk, write, and argue about it, we would be much closer to our freedom |
| 896 | 1 | I consider technology to be important for our future, I have a disdain for the academic system of formal schooling, and I definitely do not consider capitalism to be compatible with anarchism anymore. |
| 897 | 1 | I find post-anarchism to be myopic and of little practical value to society as a whole without going into great detail my arguments for this echo Bookchin's. |
| 898 | 1 | (I hope your selection lists are randomized btw, easy to do in js) What appear to me at least, the obvious contradictions inherent to a political philosophy void of a working framework for the state based in a better understanding oh human action and sound economics. Meaning, enFORCE a flawed model of egalitarianism without creating/using the institution of violence, i.e. that state seems to me a HUGE contradiction (NO STATE but ENFORCE some notion of equality). I believe Anarcho-capitalism |
| 899 | 1 | I think Anarcho-Capitalism has none of the social benefits. Its plain hard-core capitalism. Next Primitivism stands way to far from our society and is in no way something people will be lured to or will seem attractive to them. Lifestyle-Anarchism, which is also a bit CrimethInc. is in my opinion also a result of the capitalist world we live in which we try to abolish... |
| 900 | 1 | We should not be arguing with each other but with the enemy. |
| 901 | 1 | Primitivism just won't take us anywhere - we have to be clear about what situation we live in, and have to come up with realistic solutions. Utopistic solutions aren't solutions that "our society is not prepared for", they're just bad solutions, and so is primitivism. I'm also against any state-control, that is why I'm against Anarchist-Communism. |
| 902 | 1 | Obviously, one can believe whatever they want, but the rabid anti-religious fervor of many anarchists is a turnoff for many who would other be interested. A lot of people incorrectly associate all anarchists with atheists, even though many religions are sympathetic to anarchist ideals. |
| 903 | 1 | Mainly that there is extensive examples of horizontal anarchism which had destroyed various anrchist projects and real community and movment bulding, to the detriment of the cause/s and movement/s. |
| 904 | 1 | I chose those 4 because I see them as being present in the same wider active movement that I consider myself a part of. I have enormous problems with anarcho capitalism, obviously, but I don't see it as a trend present in this movement, therefore I don't see it as problematic for our collective progress as a movement. I think Platformism is the biggest tendancy which is likely to attract people with whom I share the most politics with. I can't really be bothered to pick apart why I disagree |
| 905 | 1 | Anarchism has a class struggle history dating back well over 100 years, I do not accept those who deny class struggle are anarchists. |
| 906 | 1 | I am anti-violence, and do not support any branch of anarchism that preaches violence is a means to an end. I don't think primitivism is necessary or helpful. I think capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive ideas, because capitalism - at least as it is defined today - requires a state to exist. |
| 907 | 1 | I think anarchism should be fruitful for the present day and the future. I do not think of anarchism as a revolutionary (in the sense of insurrectionary) movement, because changing people takes time. As to sectarianism: it blinds. |
| 908 | 1 | Capitalism has no place in Anarchism, as for primitivism I don't know much about it, I have heard the argument that it's racist, as in the cities would be destroyed in the event of the collapse of civilization, the cities are more diverse and have more minorities than outside of the cities. I also think it's kind of defeatist, that is let capitalism destroy everything so we can live the way we want, I'm more open to primitivist ideas than anarcho-capitalist ones, but that's not saying much |
| 909 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is pretty much impossible because it still relies on a state to protect rights of property and use coercive violence in some form to obtain its objectives. Many anarchists are individualistic in the sense that they are self-righteous and unwilling to work with other different anarchists and non-anarchists towards shared goals. Academic anarchism is mostly an intellectual exercise, though that is not to say that academic studies of anarchism are not without merit or usefu |
| 910 | 1 | Any 'type' has potential to be problematic. Some varieties of anarchist thought tend to lend themselves more towards folks with unchecked privilege. |
| 911 | 1 | I feel in the North American context (specifically in the US), anarchist specific organizing (as opposed to anarchists who are organizing not as anarchists in struggles) are very disconnected and often not relevant. |
| 912 | 1 | Capitalism is the dominant structure that the new global empire is based upon. Capitalism is based on hierarchical modes of thinking, and therefore antithetical to the movement. |
| 913 | 1 | It's nonsensical, impossible and pointless. Governments are now holding us back. Without capitalism we could build robots to do the jobs no one wants (capitalism wont give us this for a long time because it would be too expensive) and go to the stars (capitalism can't afford nor justify this, but it is our only long term hope of survival for the species. Otherwise we are at the mercy of our solar system). |
| 914 | 1 | Primitivists have no recipes for an ever expanding world population, nor do i believe we should step back from any and all technological advances, whether capitalism brought them into existence or not. i'm quite fond of the idea of having a hospital with medical tech and the like, if you see what i mean. Anarcho capitalists want unrestricted capitalism. They are not anarchists in any conceivable way. |
| 915 | 1 | They not understand capitalism how it works. technology is not the problem i think. |
| 916 | 1 | I think anarchists have an ethical obligation to work to radically transform society, and that hyper individualism, primitivism, and academic anarchism often serve as justifications for people to completely disengage from transforming their communities. |
| 917 | 1 | too many reasons to list - single issue politics, dogma, holier than thou thinking, strong focus on ideology & identity, a social ghetto, exclusive, irrelevant to most folks, blah blah blah |
| 918 | 1 | Capitalism is a system of inherent hierarchy. Anarchists cannot support anything but the destruction of capitalism, otherwise they are perpetuating a pattern of injustice, brutality and exploitation. Lifestylism is sometimes an overused term in the anarchist community, but I think there are those, perhaps those who consider themselves pacifist and do not justify any form of violence, who are not thinking about how to help their local areas. Primitivism is irrational, although I have no problem w |
| 919 | 1 | Primitivism is not anarchism, it is a sectarian apocalyptic cult. However, Derrick Jensen has a lot of valid points. Platformism is dogmatic and often sectarian. Anarchism is opposed to capitalism. However, I see mutualism, free market anarchism (free market anti-capitalism) as positive tendencies. |
| 920 | 1 | I personally dislike individualism as a "society". If a person or family wants to go out and live like that out in the wild, thats fine, whatever, I don't care. Having this as a broader reaching society though places an inflated view of self worth on individuals, and create people who, in turn, would try to take what they feel they deserve. This would create a class of the strong, the barbaric who lead over everyone else, effectively leaving us where we are today, but more fucked up. |
| 921 | 1 | The polarisation of groups subtracts from the impact we could have if we operated as a single unified group supportive of each other and putting differences aside to tackle a common enemy. |
| 922 | 1 | the workerist orientations of anarchists are a rehash of 19th century economistic Second Internationalism. post-fordist economic changes and the role of technology has made this kind of world-view largely irrelevant, and workerism has never understood the role of overlapping hierarchies in terms of race, gender, sexuality and the environment. also it has never developed a sophisticated understanding of the problems of the consumer society in terms of alienation and environmental destruction. bas |
| 923 | 1 | everything has problems |
| 924 | 1 | Too much purism from all sides. |
| 925 | 1 | I think people spend too much time worrying about what makes them, or others anarchists, and not enough time actually trying to make a difference. Anarchists don't all have to look, act, or talk like "anarchists" |
| 926 | 1 | I don't understand how replacing governments authority with one's own financial authority equates to anarchism at all...just another hierarchy |
| 927 | 1 | Without government to keep us lazy ("the police/government/business will take care of that"), all we have is each other. We have to be there for people who need us and allow others to be there for us, and I don't think that we have room to ignore that. |
| 928 | 1 | I believe anarchists should look at the big picture and share a common cause of freedom, instead of bitching amongst themselves over whether anarchy is left or right, or more socialist or capitalist, etc. |
| 929 | 1 | I have a problem mostly with college brats. Everything from the elitest language barriers, which I call "college-speak". Also, I have a problem with college students because the only time it seems they rally is for street cred & to stroke their egos. I don't follow the pollitical correctness of throwing white male hetrosexual privilege at everybody fitting those descriptions. Because some of us under those descriptions are pretty fucked in life too. I don't see college brats helping or rallying |
| 930 | 1 | Religions shouldn't have to mix with politics (I don't think spirituality and religions is the same thing). Anything that as to do with capitalism sucks. |
| 931 | 1 | Primitivism, because there will never be enough food, and because no hierachies will be destroyed just by going backwards. More is needed. Insurrectionary anarchism, because the war industrial complex is so very strong today that a even a popular revolution seems utopian. Chrimethinc, because it's lifestyle anarchism. Lifestyle anarchism, because lifestyle never changed anything. Anarcho-Capitalism, because it's capitalism. |
| 932 | 1 | anarchism is a petit-bourgeois deviation |
| 933 | 1 | Most of the above center around individualism and identity/lifestyle; symptoms of consumer culture. |
| 934 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is an unrealistic and ahistorical movement that serves to misrepresent anarchism |
| 935 | 1 | Because it is still implying that there is a ruling class of super-humans. I.E. a magical wizard in the sky. I can't imagine any moral progress being made if we are still answering to a higher being than ourselves. |
| 936 | 1 | Contradictory/Exclusionary |
| 937 | 1 | They do not really contribute to the promotion of the opinions that will lead to the libertarian communist revolution. |
| 938 | 1 | too much infighting, shit talking about each other. |
| 939 | 1 | These forms either limit the autonomy of groups and the potentials for action, or are simply not in line with anarchist values whatsoever. Anarcho-capitalism is somewhat offensive to anarchists in this regard. |
| 940 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism...wtf?? Primitivism...reactionary |
| 941 | 1 | The biggest thing is the big amount of sectarianism within the anarchist movement, as the constat bickering and idiotic arguments are what drive us apart. I see it more and more, that people from the anarchist movement, dissaprove of one and other because he or she belongs to a different group, or are of a different anarchist ideological orientation. This is total bullshit as one of the things anarchism is about, is pluralism and freedom and if we can make it work properly between ourselves |
| 942 | 1 | Insurrectionism: glorifying violence and a certain kind of aggressive male identity, Anarcho-capitalism: imho there's no such thing as non-domination in capitalism, Christian Anarchism: Christianity (as all monotheistic religion) is based on the idea of an external/nonhuman authority which for me makes it a contradiction in terms (same as anarcho-capitalism) |
| 943 | 1 | Sorry, I'd have to go wikipedia all this and I'm too lazy. |
| 944 | 1 | Individualism: obviously. Primitivism: fucking moronic. Insurrectionary: more of a tactic than anything else, and a bad one at that. If there were a world-wide insurrection, what would we do next? It's all rhetoric and no substance. Post-anarchism: wtf. Anarcho-capitalism: oxy-moron - why in the hell is this listed? |
| 945 | 1 | ¿¡Primitivism!? If that there would five or ten times more people than necesary. The sectarianism is a problem because there are a lot of anarchist that have created a barrier to protect themselves from the real world, that sucks. That barrier doesn't let them to have contact with the rest of the society and then the idea can't be expanded. |
| 946 | 1 | While I'm not necessarily a pacifist, I think focusing on violent tactics, particularly while anarchists are such a small and marginalized population, gives other people the wrong impression and does not support bringing the benefits of anarchism to mainstream culture. Were it able to tactically succeed at this point I might find it justifiable anyway, but I don't really believe that is possible without much more popular support. Using or promoting violence foolishly, when it's not likely to ach |
| 947 | 1 | I dont see how the capitalism idea can fit with a human anarchism. Capital is an opressor in itself and so I see it as problematic if that should be used as a method for anarchy. I dont think it will work, but make a hidden authority that is more powerful than the state is today. As a deconstructionist I see it as important that we try to deconstruct the constructions which today suppress others, before we add new constructions. Building upon capital we will not deconstructing all the excisting |
| 948 | 1 | Individualism and primitivism are historically regressive. I need my technology... I don't believe in "market forces" or invisible appendages, and anarcho capitalism tends to get mixed in with the right wing ideologies imo... |
| 949 | 1 | In anarchistic society is crime and capitalism non-permissible! Anarchistic society have to exist on toleration of each other. |
| 950 | 1 | assorted statists and nihilists who claim to be anarchists, but are not: they mislead people about the fundamental nature of anarchy. |
| 951 | 1 | We need mass working class, popular anarchism. A lot of these tendencies isolate the most desperate, under privileged members of societies. My family would probably support anarchist politics if they were presented by the right people... now they are all over the place with a lot of immature, young people coming in from privileged backgrounds who want everything all together now. If they were willing to do some work for a couple years and build community organizations with anarchist tendencies, |
| 952 | 1 | I dont agree with much of the other trend but I can tolerate them and see value in them but I found those box I ticked up there to be really problematic because they are in my opinion a clear breack with everything anarchism as ever stand for. They are not linked to anything "in the tradition". |
| 953 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism damages anarchism by building a very negative stereotype, which generally conveys destructive and aggressive ideals. |
| 954 | 1 | Not sure what all of your choices are! |
| 955 | 1 | The ones I have ticked tend to still maintain power over others by definition, or allow too much individualism atagonistic to community identity to be prperly anarchist. On the whole though anarchism ought to dissolve itself as a definition once certian goals in the movment are reached or else it crawls up its own arse and dies. |
| 956 | 1 | Because they simply tend to limit people and box their beliefs. |
| 957 | 1 | WOW! so much to say. indie & capitalist & lifestylist "anarchos" are missing the boat and maintaining social stratification, not working to help everybody (lifestylists are just shortsighted selfish navel-gazers). primitivism, though i think maybe integral to an initial anarchist sensibility, is primarily unfortunate because of its strict stance against cultural and technological hybridity. CrimethIns says, of homelessness, "if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong" - crimethinc is a bunc |
| 958 | 1 | We must strive past the primitive idea of individualism and collectively embrace our existence. |
| 959 | 1 | I don't believe the ends justify the means, so a nonviolent means of anarchism would be best such as Agorism. I also don't think that primitism or back to nature anarchism will let people have a standard of living worth having. I think the lack of copyright and patent laws, and the formation of home based 3d printers will allow everyone to enjoy a good standard of living without large industries. Also I think that CrimethInk is part of a anti-intellectual anarchism, that doesn't pick sides, or r |
| 960 | 1 | I'm all for responsible social ecology, but anarcho-primitivists want to abolish industrialized technology, which I am not for. I'm very much against the monetary system and property, and so am against Anarcho-Capitalism. |
| 961 | 1 | It breeds misanthropy and innaction and privilege. Read Bookchin's unbridgeable chasm |
| 962 | 1 | As amory starr tells white people in Grumpywarriorcool, our "excessive individualism isn't cultural diversity, it's internalized white privilege." |
| 963 | 1 | I find that both of these are contemptuous of the vast mass of people--one dismissing the millions (billions?) who would have to die to make their utopia possible, the other dismissing those who are dying now to make capitalism possible. |
| 964 | 1 | 1) Anarchists need to learn from each other and remain open to developing their ideas. Major lessons of history have still to properly addressed by anarchists who want to bring change - eg defeat of anarchism in Spain. 2) I have participated in a lot of 'loose' anarchist groups which are often set up so as 'to bring people together'. Often a class analysis sacreficed as part of this deal. It's a hopeless situation once this occurs. |
| 965 | 1 | i was thinking if i should click on "lifestyle" as well..on one hand, the way how i live is somehow important for me, the fact that i'm anarchist influence my life, my relationships etc a lot. On the other hand dumpster-diving or squatting don't make anarchist of you, even some of "us" think it..in this case, i consider it a problematic trend. |