| query | ||
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| TOTALCOUNT | WHY_ARE_THESE_TRENDS_NOT_ANARCHIST | |
| 1 | 1742 | [empty string] |
| 2 | 11 | see above |
| 3 | 10 | See above. |
| 4 | 4 | Same as above. |
| 5 | 2 | because its fucking silly |
| 6 | 2 | "Anarcho" (or more fittingly: ultra-)capitalism is not anarchism, because capitalism is a system of rule - even in the free market version: it will never be fluid and individual enough. Christian anarchist: Haven't meet any, so there not a threat, but I think all religious beleif have to be thought-colonial towards other people and relations. PARECON and neomarxist, because the first sounds like new-speech (1984-ish) and because both tends to be more tolerant towards autoritarian marxists th |
| 7 | 2 | Capitalism and equality do not work together. |
| 8 | 2 | I consider American libertarianism to be right wing and antithetical to freedom and the goals of anarchism. I accept all the other flavors of this wonderful creed. |
| 9 | 2 | Capitalism is inherently authoritarian. |
| 10 | 2 | See previous answer |
| 11 | 2 | capitalism is a form of oppression which anarchists should seek to overthrow |
| 12 | 2 | same as above |
| 13 | 1 | As long as profit is a factor, someone is getting the short end of the stick. You can't have Capitalism in any form without profit. If you can, it's not Capitalism. |
| 14 | 1 | See above. Primitivism is eco-fascism, and anarcho-capitalism doesn't abolish heirarchy and recreates the state. |
| 15 | 1 | same as my previous answer |
| 16 | 1 | There's A Difference Between Anarchy And Hate Crime |
| 17 | 1 | sorry i am not entirely familiar with all these tendencies and therefore cannot have a definite opinion on them. |
| 18 | 1 | same answer |
| 19 | 1 | See previous answer. |
| 20 | 1 | I believe that anarchism rests on people's natural desire to associate for common goals. Thus, individualism is not really anarchist but rather hermit-like or even libertarian. Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron (see above). |
| 21 | 1 | Too much of anything is a bad thing |
| 22 | 1 | Perhaps anarchy with boundaries contradicts itself. |
| 23 | 1 | Lifestyle denotes trends and surface issues. |
| 24 | 1 | Refer to the answer above |
| 25 | 1 | See previous answer, also, I am not familiar with: insurrectionary anarchism platformism post-structural anarchism lifestyle anarchism |
| 26 | 1 | They are inherently authoritarian and oppressive. |
| 27 | 1 | Academic anarchism is a lofty idealistic dream held by people of privilege, who do not NEED to change the society in which we live, but who are quite happy to stand on the sidelines and poke holes in the attempts of others. Anarcho-Capitalism does not take into account the oppression of the "market", and the ultimate issue of "private" property (property to be acquired and accumulated for profit over actual use or need). Christian-Anarchism, whilst not incompatible with my own views, does |
| 28 | 1 | See previous question. |
| 29 | 1 | Lifestyle-A is more of a fashion trend and the followers usually fall away as soon as the next trend appears. A-Capitalist is just plain contradictory and always forms it's own hiearachys, and a religious anarkism is dangerous as it will always organise itself through dogmas, though individuals can easily be anarchists and religous. |
| 30 | 1 | any anarchism which aims at violent revolution misses the point of opposing the state. |
| 31 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism: Heirarchy is integral to the concept of property. Christian Anarchism: A deity implies hierarchy. Even if "God" is the only authority, authority still exists. The previous question about religious anarchism ("Do you think anarchists should be atheists?") did not have a satisfying answer: I believe that anarchists may be moderately religious, but that religion should not dictate obedience to a supernatural authority, or else they are not anarchists. |
| 32 | 1 | anarcho-capitalism is capitalism and academics spend more time "analyzing" than building anything |
| 33 | 1 | Because much of the "social" asspects of the belief it esposes are actually democratic in nature. Also the dogma is not opposed to the use of force to achieve class equality. |
| 34 | 1 | These "anarchist" groups advocate the use of force to keep people from trading freely (using money), etc. They call for the outlawing of certain things... but they say they don't want laws. Really they do, they just want their own laws, and therefore, rulers who agree with them. |
| 35 | 1 | Christianity in itself establishes authority over the people by using the idea of an almighty God to "keeo people in line" |
| 36 | 1 | Anything which condones the use of violent force or coercion against another I fail to see how it can see itself as acting any different than a government. |
| 37 | 1 | I can accept market anarchism, but not an anarchism where an owner of property can be abstracted from the property they own. |
| 38 | 1 | It's not for any one person to define anarchism; it is a very ambiguous term. The freedom of the indvidual to define/decide for herself/himself is central for their freedom. |
| 39 | 1 | It doesn't really matter if it is not genuinely anarchist-- Anarchism means everything under the sun these days and little of it has to do with participating in struggle to overturn capitalism. |
| 40 | 1 | "Anarchocapitalism" is semantic fraud on the part of M. Rothbard. It is ultra-capitalist Social Darwinism, survival of the biggest pigs. They are not against authority - they just want to abolish the Public (partly socialist) State and replace it with the Private (totalitarian) Estate. Dictatorship of the propertariat! Monotheism and anarchism are enemies. It is idealistic, superstitious, authoritarian anti-humanism. |
| 41 | 1 | competition and the rule of money vs. cooperation and self-determination says it all - anarcho-capitalism seems to be about a competitive society where monetary inventives motivate social action. the rest of the forms of anarchism generally promote solidarity and cooperation as far as I know. |
| 42 | 1 | See above... |
| 43 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is a frightening thought for me as I do not believe and do not want markets to control my life - I fight for the abolition of money and the collective ownership of goods so privatisation comes totally against my anarchist beliefs. Academic anarchism is useful and contributes a lot but then again anarchism is all about action and not talking... |
| 44 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism? See above. God as a lord or Jesus as a savior |
| 45 | 1 | Capitalism invariably leads to the creation of structures of power and oppression. |
| 46 | 1 | i feel anarchy and capitalism are two completely different things that can not be mixed. capitalism =oppression, greed , exploitation. anarchy = freedom and democracy. |
| 47 | 1 | They are limiteb by some rules set by society, religion or system. |
| 48 | 1 | Unfettered individualism (narcissism) is the ultimate form of liberalism. |
| 49 | 1 | Because anarchism is a movement that started in the 1860s against capitalism, the state, with a tendency towards opposing all forms of domination and oppression, committed to the revolutionary overthrow of existing society and replacing it with a free, equal, and cooperative global society... not just anti-statism or anything anyone wants to call anarchism. |
| 50 | 1 | Not focused on worker's organisation of production as a means of class conflict. |
| 51 | 1 | seriously? why did you leave "national anarchism" off the list? |
| 52 | 1 | I consider capitalism and the Christian god examples of illegitimate authority, making them incompatible with anarchism. This applies more to the "anarcho"-capitalists than it does to the Christians. Capitalism is exploitation and hierarchy. |
| 53 | 1 | they support hierarchy |
| 54 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is a trend which totally negates the whole point of anarchism. The same goes for national-anarchism |
| 55 | 1 | It inherently implies a base belief system that subverts anarchism at most levels. |
| 56 | 1 | No capitalism without the State. |
| 57 | 1 | Lifestyle is not relevant. Pretty much all true tendencies understand that personal-self change is important. For example, that inner change should allow you, if you wish to be/practice libertarian principles, to "negotiate reality" with people/groupes. Likewise, Individualism is often a potential to grasp and possibly become anarchist/libertarian, but it not as such and does not give people power. Anarcho-Capitalism : I'm not sure I need to explain, but I did say a word on it before in th |
| 58 | 1 | Anarchism is socialist in broad terms or it is nothing. However, I didn't check "individualism" or "primitivism," even though not all who claim those labels are anarchists. Since some are in fact anarchists, I left those unchecked. |
| 59 | 1 | "Genuinely anarchist" is a distinction I am not qualified to draq |
| 60 | 1 | Academic anarchism is only concerned with theory and speculation; this is not conducive to real-world anarchy and is therefore impotent. Capitalism, by nature of being based upon property ownership, sets up inevitable power dynamics between those who own and those who do not. Fundamentally, this makes the synthesis of Anarchy and Capitalism extremely challenging, if not totally impossible. |
| 61 | 1 | Because their focus is on a perfect ruler, which still means there is an arbiter of unimpeachable character that cannot be questioned. |
| 62 | 1 | As stated above, I will continue with my rant. Christian anarchism, means that you believe in a god. Which is abit worrying. Primitism would cost the lifes of millions. |
| 63 | 1 | same reason |
| 64 | 1 | I think anarchism and capitalism are mutually exclusive ideologies |
| 65 | 1 | Too many damn rules made by other people. I'm not very familiar with the others. |
| 66 | 1 | Any anarchist who would resort to the initiation of violence is not an anarchist. |
| 67 | 1 | Anarchism is a humanist anti-capitalist philosophy. While the other "trends" listed have disagreements about organizational form, strategic orientation, or theoretical coherence to what they oppose; anarcho-capitalists and anti-humanist primitivists i.e.-those of deep ecology variants, who predict/ relish the idea of collapse and "die off" (As opposed to anarchists who may have valid and insightful critiques of 'Civilization' or 'technology') are not anarchist by any comprehensible definition. |
| 68 | 1 | who the fuck cares! |
| 69 | 1 | Boss = ruler Anarchy = absence of rulers |
| 70 | 1 | "Anarcho-Capitalism" is like "Anarcho-Statism". Throughout the ~230 year history of anarchism, capitalism has been almost universally attacked, as has the state. They're parallels, capitalism and statism. |
| 71 | 1 | they emphasize ideas that are specifically against anarchist theory. |
| 72 | 1 | I think it's really unhelpful to read anyone out of the movement. |
| 73 | 1 | To me, anarchism is just another way of saying "communitarian syndicalism". Capital is liberty while a lack of capital is oppression. Too much and you're more liberated than other people, which causes you to use it against them; thus making you an archon; a leader; an oppressor. Capitalists can't be anarchists. Christians aren't anarchists; they have a leader. They don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and their God. They don't give a fuck about the community. Primitivists are |
| 74 | 1 | Individualists can be anyone, even anarchists, but the tendency leads to isolation and estrangement. It carries nothing inherently positive for the anarchist project. Primitivism is valuable for conceiving the future and understanding the limitations of representation, but it is not practical or viable for addressing the environmental devastation its adherents wish to end. Academic anarchism is the refuge of isolated celebrities, contemplating what they are no longer a part of. Post-an |
| 75 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism because it doesn't really have ideological content, but merely the outer trappings. Anarcho-capitalism because it's just extreme capitalism and never was part of anarchist tradition, totally abandoning the core anarchist focus on social and economic justice. |
| 76 | 1 | Capitalism? Seriously? |
| 77 | 1 | i have never heard about these tendencies |
| 78 | 1 | I'm not sure if I have a corner on the market of "genuine" anarchism. |
| 79 | 1 | Same reasons as last question. Seems to me all three are too close to being right wing, if not openly so. And that they don't really have an analysis of power at all, and since to me anarchism is about addressing power relations when they are oppressive, I find it problematic to call these anarchist. |
| 80 | 1 | (A) is about being who you really are, and attempting make a better world with those whom you have direct contact with |
| 81 | 1 | if 'crimethlnc means 'going out and commiting crimes' then i believe that is destructive to the cause and being taken seriously |
| 82 | 1 | Anarchism is anti-thetical to capitalism. Since anarchism has been articulated as a formal theory, it has always been anti-capitalist. So ancap is, of course, an oxymoron. |
| 83 | 1 | Primitivism is not anarchism. It advocates a society without a state, but not an equal society - humans are still unequal by birth, and tribal structures are tolerated. Capitalism and christianity are not anarchist for obvious reasons. |
| 84 | 1 | Wrote about this here: http://dbzer0.com/blog/why-anarchists-and-anarcho-capitalists-cant-be-allies |
| 85 | 1 | as long as they are against violence, then they are by definition against taxation, and therefore anarchists. |
| 86 | 1 | Platformism? You can't be an anarchist in a bureaucratic and strict organization. Academic Anarchism? Nuff said, if there's an academic anarchism then there should be retarded anarchism. Which is absurd. There no such thing as anarchist-academics, there's just anarchist and those professor who live a conservative life while thinking as radical are just as radical as Jesuit Priest. |
| 87 | 1 | Same answer as above. |
| 88 | 1 | La violencia genra violencia. Los medios no son congruentes con el fin último: la armonía, la tolerancia, la paz y la justicia. |
| 89 | 1 | Christianity is a religion - I don't think that religion and anarchy mix. I mean, you can call yourself a religious anarchist or a Christian anarchist or whatever but it seems to me that you're submitting yourself to someone else's rules when you do that. I'm open to other ideas on this. |
| 90 | 1 | it is unintelligible |
| 91 | 1 | as above, part of the left-wing of capitalism, not against it |
| 92 | 1 | God=hierarchy. religion=hierarchical, moralistic. anarchy=anti-hierarchy. anarchy=fuck morals! |
| 93 | 1 | Because I don't believe you can really mesh Capitalism with a free society and eventually the need for profit will become priority. |
| 94 | 1 | I'm opposed to insurrectionary anarchism as the process of active insurrection leads inevitably to the taking of personal libery from individuals. they may be wrong, but the revolution must come from the independant volition of individuals for it to truly meet it's ideals. I'm opposed to lifestyle anarchism and anarchocapitalism because the are both fundamentally not solidarity or equality, which are two of the three pillars of anarchism as a movement. so they dilute the message. |
| 95 | 1 | Some of these tendencies I've never heard of, and seem to be a contradiction in terms. I'm wondering if they're included as a joke. The other tendencies appear to me to not be concerned with creating socialism, but rather some kind of rootsy, hedonistic, dumpster-diving utopia. |
| 96 | 1 | academic anarchism holds great value, but it alone cannot be considered anarchism without practice. academic anarchism taught in "free schools", as education for liberation, is another matter. |
| 97 | 1 | I don't regard Individualism, Primitivism, Post-anarchism, Crimethinc, Anarcho-Capitalism, Christian Anarchism as having anything in common with the anti-authoritarian socialist movement that arose in the 1860s. That aimed at creating a mass movement capable of creating a free and equal society in an advanced manner. Individualism is anti-socialist and a disaster in practical terms. Primitivism claims that humans are incapable of living in a free and equal mass society, thus contradicting |
| 98 | 1 | I've just said it. |
| 99 | 1 | That was a hard question to answer, because it depends on the context. For instance, Insurrectionary anarchism might be a valid anarchist strategy if there is already a powerful movement, but at the moment in most western countries there isn't, so it ends up really individualistic, which is not anarchism. Its not so much these types of anarchisms (except anarcho-capitalism) that are necessarily not anarchism, but more the type of behaviour they encourage, which is often cult-like or individualis |
| 100 | 1 | Capitalism is the forced monopolization of wealth and concentrated distribution of power. |
| 101 | 1 | The above rely on the evocation of external authorities, e.g. Platformism: the proletariat as revolutionary subject. |
| 102 | 1 | Because of the historical foundations of anarchism. See the wicked book Black Flame: The Revolutionary Class Politics of Anarchism and Syndicalism. If it doesn't have a class analysis it's not anarchism is basically ny rule of thumb. |
| 103 | 1 | Insurrectionary anarchism - Violence is an attempt to rule over others |
| 104 | 1 | I see inherent contradictions in the majority of these forms of thought. |
| 105 | 1 | Any brand of anarchism that does not include some sort of class analysis in it is not anarchism it is post-leftism or post-modernism. None of the selected ideals are political movements at all. They are either trends or angst filled hippies. None of these ideals have viable ways to defeat Capitalism. Not a single useful victory has happened due to any of the above selected ideals because of their lack of relevant rhetoric and activism. |
| 106 | 1 | anarchism is without god - din dios! |
| 107 | 1 | Same as my previous explanation. |
| 108 | 1 | Vertical hierarchy must exist in the two selected for them to exist. |
| 109 | 1 | For the most part I avoid saying anyone "is not a genuine" anarchist for reasons on the "no true Scotsman" fallacy in formal logic. I find its better to argue with someones platform itself rather then deny them use of an identity. Ayn Rand style capitalism for instance is directly counter to what I believe and use the term anarchist when I refer to myself but arguments about terminology don't help anyone, far better to argue that its responsible for wage slavery then it being "genuine" |
| 110 | 1 | Same as I said above: People can use what ever label they want to describe themselves, but individualists do not fit within the anarchist tradition. Anarchism is about human liberation, not only from government but from poverty, irrationality and exploitation. |
| 111 | 1 | The many faces of anarchism produce a lengthy list of accomplishments, and failures. But problems/issues can be tackled from many sides. Taking a singular, narrow approach can limit an individual's and/or group's capacities for change. |
| 112 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is a form of authoritarian dogma in of itself and perpetuates social hierarchy. Anarcho-Capitalism conveniently ignores capital as a major force of inequality |
| 113 | 1 | A lot of people who identify as platformist, academic anarchists, and anarcho-capitalists either show authoritarian tendencies or are clearly not anarchists. I find this especially true of anarcho-capitalists, but this might be because I am more exposed to their bad adherents. But I know solidly libertarian folks who identify as anarcho-capitalists or agorists. |
| 114 | 1 | There seems to be a leader / preacher / dogmatist at the head of each organization. |
| 115 | 1 | Primitivism just would not prevent hieracical structures |
| 116 | 1 | They are simply CAPITALISTs, or worse they claim the moniker of anarchism but actually advocate Spencerian "social Darwinism." This is Georges Sorel's turn to violence, and in fact is the basis of fascism. |
| 117 | 1 | religion is a hierarchy whether or not you support an established "chuch". |
| 118 | 1 | you call something as lifestyle anarchism, so ask yourself. |
| 119 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism doesn't oppose hierarchys or class society. |
| 120 | 1 | quelle surprise. |
| 121 | 1 | Anarchism has a class struggle history dating back well over 100 years, I do not accept those who deny class struggle are anarchists. |
| 122 | 1 | Capitalism breeds large structures, and large structures form rules and governments. Capitalism is in direct conflict with anarchism. |
| 123 | 1 | making our lives easier (technology) is as much a part of human nature as is music and dancing. It would be impossible to set limits on technology without a primitivist vanguard. Anarcho capitalists are not against hierarchy...they are actually FOR it. |
| 124 | 1 | you have to define capitalism, because what we have now isnt it. id like a real capitalism much better than what we have now but i think for all the diatribe it's pretty antithetical to social projects. |
| 125 | 1 | I am unfamiliar with most of your terms |
| 126 | 1 | individualism, capitalism and religion all inherently imply dominion over something/one else. |
| 127 | 1 | Capitalism and Governments are symbiotic in nature. One cannot exist without the other. Once capitalism is introduced, in any form, the system will eventually devolve to Feudalism and eventually back to where we are now. |
| 128 | 1 | The persistence of capital makes equality impossible |
| 129 | 1 | Capitalism doesnt work within anarchism, no matter how well its hidden. |
| 130 | 1 | Anarchy and terms such as CAPITALISM, SOCIALISM, RELIGION etc. should be separate |
| 131 | 1 | I think that opposition to property, interest, and wage labor stems from bad understanding of economics (particularly division of labor and efficiency). |
| 132 | 1 | Egalitarianism is incoherent and simply can't be made to apply to societies of humans. People are unique and unequal, and that's awesome, I wouldn't have it any other way. Trying to apply egalitarian principles to people leads to things like forced equalization of wealth or other conditions, which doesn't do a damn bit of good and involves force. Collectivism, the notion that the individual exists only or primarily to serve the collective (in other words, other individuals) is incompatibl |
| 133 | 1 | I don't care. As long as they are questioning the status quo. That's a good thing. |
| 134 | 1 | Anarchism as I understand it is, at minimum, about destruction of state and capital. Hence, one can not be an anarcho-capitalist. Here int he US, there are many "libertarians" who espouse some views similar to anarchists, but are all about free market (and actually don't advocate for the elimination of the state entirely) - perhaps I'm just yet to meet the right anarcho-capitalist... Nationalist anarchists - similar argument, plus they are racist bastards. |
| 135 | 1 | Anarchism was born in the I international, a type of socialism, advocated social revolution and was connected to the working classes aspirations. Today lifestylism, individualism and primitivism don´t have anything to do with that background. |
| 136 | 1 | They're like two opposed poles. It's like good vs. bad. I don't need to tell you because you already know why, but I must tell you that I hate anacho-capitalists. Capitalism is a disease so those anarcho-capitalist people are sick! |
| 137 | 1 | Domination, and subjection are not compatible with anarchist tenets. |
| 138 | 1 | no masters no gods |
| 139 | 1 | Capitalism has nothing to do with anarchism - it ensures power for the rich. Christianity, as well as any religion, is authoritarian. |
| 140 | 1 | All of those 3 are lead by a god or money. |
| 141 | 1 | capitalism is inherently about hierarchies, hence cannot be anarchistic! |
| 142 | 1 | Anarchy has always been against any system that allows one person(or group) to dominate others. Capitalism relies on this. |
| 143 | 1 | The private property! Not a single soul in this universe could claim property, not even on their own life. |
| 144 | 1 | Obvious. |
| 145 | 1 | They do not hold fast to the trinity of Freeom & Equality & Solidarity |
| 146 | 1 | Capitalism and Christianity sound weird within anarchism but I don't feel like have the right to decide what is and isn't "anarchist" . I would rather focus on whether or not someone's actions were in line with anarchist ideals rather than their label. |
| 147 | 1 | Anarchy is not a scolar théory or a attitude compatible with a religious belief |
| 148 | 1 | True anarchism cannot be attained as long as people think only about themselves. Society may change, it may even change radically, but a true revolution can never happen until people are willing and able to act in self-abnegation and recognize that we are all people and are all equals. |
| 149 | 1 | Because capitalism entails coercion, hierarchy, and is the complete antithesis of mutual aid and voluntary cooperation. I could go into more detail but I feel it is rather evident. |
| 150 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism isn't really anarchism. Capital almost has to be enforced with authority. |
| 151 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalists are more superstitious than Christian Anarchists. There's no such thing as a free market, markets need authority to work. |
| 152 | 1 | bullshitism |
| 153 | 1 | Anarchism cannot be anti-authoritarian without being opposed to the hierarchical institution of capitalism. |
| 154 | 1 | See above. They're socialists. |
| 155 | 1 | Anarchism has historically been anti-capitalist and the authors anarcho-capitalists get their influence from generally did not identify as anarchists. |
| 156 | 1 | I believe trying to wall off and delineate movements opposed to a state are counterproductive. |
| 157 | 1 | I believe these "movements" are either fads, fringe lifestyles, or reactionary elements that are irrelevant to the struggles of the disempowered and exploited. |
| 158 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is the rule of Big Business. It is the State made Corporate. |
| 159 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism: Capitalism by definition has power relations between employer and employed, as it is not really Capitalism if labour cannot be bought or sold. Freedom is also meaningless as a concept for people without the resources to exercise it, which would include the poor in any AnCap system. Primitivism: I do not see how freedom would be increased by reducing access to education and intellectual stimulus or by reducing length of life used to exercise freedom. This is not to mention |
| 160 | 1 | One of the core tenets of Anarchism as I understand it is being against hierarchy. As I see Capitalism, especially when unbound from the state, it would create and perpetuate hierarchy necessarily. As such, I don't think it is genuine to that aspect of Anarchism, leading me to believe that they belong more to the libertarian camp. Still, they oppose the state and as such, they're better than most. |
| 161 | 1 | ancaps are not Anarchists, they do not oppose heirarchy |
| 162 | 1 | Because they are opposed to the basic principles of anarchism. |
| 163 | 1 | See van der Walt and Schmidt's Black Flame to get an idea what I think anarchism is. They explicitly dismiss individualism, lifestyle anarchism and anarcho-capitalism; I think post-anarchism and primitivism likewise fall short on the basic requirement of commitment to class struggle. I think the same goes for crimethinc as a tendency although there may be exceptions. I'd add "Christian anarchism" if I could sure that meant Tolstoy, but maybe there is a more serious Christian anarchist tendency a |
| 164 | 1 | "God" is a heirarchy and so are bosses. Christians and Capitalists should be free to associate though. |
| 165 | 1 | For the same reasons as above. |
| 166 | 1 | They are all anarchist ideologies. As long as you respect the fruits of my labor and do not initiate aggression, I don't really care. |
| 167 | 1 | It's fine being an individual but if you live only for yourself what good are you. Insurrection and violence is a failed tactic. Lifestyle anarchism is style with out substance. Anarcho-Capitalism is a contradiction. It is merely Libertarian Capitalism which we are resisting. |
| 168 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism = juxtaposition. Individualism has been proven as an effective way to alienate people - it needs to be curbed for a while. Christian-anarchism is the first I hear of such a thing but it sounds like a bullshit way to promote organized religion. |
| 169 | 1 | If it's not premised on mutual aid, then it's not anarchism. |
| 170 | 1 | capitalism concentrates wealth and thus power. Christianity worships an authoritarian deity. |
| 171 | 1 | Answered already. |
| 172 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism has nothing with anarchism because people are not economic equal inside of this "anarcho" theory. In order to call something: anarchism; it must be in harmony with basic principles of anarchism: no state, no economic exploitation, it means no rulers in any sense (private and public). - Primitivism is construct created from watching of negative sides of technology and mass society, what else could we expect from people who are doctrined in present culture and automatically they |
| 173 | 1 | Primitivism seems to be rooted in the idea of some kind of original sin of technological development rather than an interest in the state/capital/hierarchy. Crimethinc seem a little better than they used to be, but it looks like radical posturing without a decent analysis to me. Anarcho-capitalists are not against hierarchy, they simply want one based on the ownership of capital. Lifestylism seems like a form of radical liberalism, no real attempt to engage with how capital and the stat |
| 174 | 1 | To me, Anarcho-Capitalism ignores the fundamental anti-subordination (not simply anti-authoritarianism) idea of Anarchism. Capitalist systems of private ownership force a need/want-sale complex which results in sale, possession and work hierarchies. |
| 175 | 1 | Property is theft...capitalism generates oppression and inequitable relationships. It is totally irreconcilable with anything resembling anarchism. |
| 176 | 1 | Capitalism is inherently contrary to anarchism as it's still a form of exploitation and domination. |
| 177 | 1 | to accept a religion as true is to contradict the idea/ethos of not living your life in subjugation. we are the makers of our fates, and should leave ourselves free to create them. the belief in a god figure, especially in relation to christianity's god, transfers responsibility for our lives and actions to the god figure instead of the individual. |
| 178 | 1 | I'm really not sure I'm "qualified" to answer this question See previous response regarding "anarcho"-capitalism. I've been told Primitivism is a not a form of anarchism, but I would like to investigate this myself. |
| 179 | 1 | not anarchic, no rebellious thinking involved. |
| 180 | 1 | Because Anarchism is opposed to Capitalism |
| 181 | 1 | Most tendencies within the Anarchist movement are just bad Anarchism. "Anarcho-Capitalism" is an oxymoron, since property requires a State to defend it. Militant liberals, many of whom are to be found amongst the ranks of individualists, primitivists & lifestylists, don't actually want the State gone at all. They just want to do their own thing without the State interfering - and sometimes are prepared to back the State for anti-communist reasons. "National Anarchism" is a recent phenome |
| 182 | 1 | They have nothing to do with the liberation of the working class, and the creation of a class-less society. |
| 183 | 1 | What does it mean to be "genuinely anarchist"? By whose standard? |
| 184 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is destroying the scene. People LIKE the scene that is presented with anarchism, they like the community, the parties, etc. but they don't organize and aren't present at actions. Sexism is a huge issue (seen in all forms of anarchism) and can be evident when reading some CrimethInc books such as Evasion or Expect Resistance. |
| 185 | 1 | capatilism has inherent heirarchies and power structures which are unacceptable to anarchism |
| 186 | 1 | They have no relation to the worker's movement. |
| 187 | 1 | capitalism is inherently oppressive, greedy and hierarchical, therfore it is counter to the main tenents of anarchism - which to me are anti-opression, mutual aid, and and anti-authoritarianism. |
| 188 | 1 | anarcho-capitalism is contradictory. |
| 189 | 1 | Any belief that permits initiatory force against people and their property effects a political relationship between people: those with the power to aggress with impunity over those without such power. That is the opposite of anarchism. |
| 190 | 1 | As I said above, I know people I consider genuine market/individualist anarchists who come from an anarcho-cap background and choose that label, but the mainstream of that movement doesn't qualify. A lot of genuine anarchists in the Tucker tradition of individualism, thanks to the split between them and European-style communism, were coopted by comparatively right-leaning forces, and don't really fit into the Misesian milieu. |
| 191 | 1 | My observation has been that people with capital are more easily able to get more capital. The 'free agreements between consenting adults' ideal is fine, but If wealth is concentrated amongst relatively few individuals in a pure free market they would be disinclined to respect those without. An important oversight of Anarcho-Capitalism is that in the absence of government there would be no legal restrictions on the organization of labor. I think that if Anarcho-Capitalists had their way it wou |
| 192 | 1 | Capitalism in most forms is inherently dependent on statism and rigid structure to function, let alone flourish. Lifestyle anarchism is only problematic when it become preachy, which it often does. |
| 193 | 1 | this is not anarchism !!!!!! |
| 194 | 1 | They still believe in maintaining the incentive for people to continue authority and exploitation |
| 195 | 1 | Primitivism, when taken seriously enough, is anti-humanism. It requires most of the population to disappear, which hardly means freedom for them or their children. Capitalism is obviously not anarchism since it requires a working class who have to work because they have less choices than capitalist class so they are not free. |
| 196 | 1 | Primitivism opposes human society, while anarchism values it. True anarchism has as its most fundamental principle the primacy of humanity, and the uselessness of inhuman institutions like the state in the development of humanity. Primitivism, instead, seeks to cripple human society, in a search for base and pathetic happiness. Fundamentally, their rhetoric is against the human society, while anarchist rhetoric is against the inhuman state. |
| 197 | 1 | Anarchism, as I understand it, is against domination and exploitation. |
| 198 | 1 | christian/any kind of theism anarchism is a logical fallacy. how can you say you have from freed from hierarchy when you still answer to an ultimate leader? |
| 199 | 1 | timecube |
| 200 | 1 | idem |
| 201 | 1 | "not genuinely anarchist" is a meaningless phrase. |
| 202 | 1 | For the same reason as above, regarding insurrectionary anarchism. Academic anarchism is useless - an attempt must be made to live one's life according to anarchic principles. Simply telling other people about this great thing without attempting to utilize it strikes me as ingenuine / dishonest. |
| 203 | 1 | For the above reasons. Neither takes seriously what it means to anarchize. Perhaps Christian Anarchism is due for some modification, however almost invariably the Christianity of CA is the modification of controls in defense of working and poor people. A disturbed and untenable hybrid, perhaps, but positive insofar as it exists. |
| 204 | 1 | I don't think 'Anarcho-Capitalism' or primitivism are part of the anarchist tradition. Even the individualists considered themselves socialists of some sorts and were critical of the exploitative relationships that wage labor and capitalism created. Primitivism has little concern with the goal of changing society and if enacted would result in the death of the majority of humanity-- ie genocide, which is totally contrary to the humanistic and egalitarian principles of anarchism. Crimethinc |
| 205 | 1 | they are capitalist I view anarchism in general/any form as an arm of the anticapitalist movement |
| 206 | 1 | Individualism carries a strong belief in Ego, which is the source of violence when it comes from the anarchist demostrators. |
| 207 | 1 | Anarchism, as every other ideology, is not ahistorical but it emerged in special period in history (this doesn´t mean that there were not existing various libertarians trough history) and that is - in First International and amoung workers (at least in mass expression of anarchism). We can describe anarchism basically trough it´s advocacy of freedom and eguality (or freedomeguality - as inseparable terms). In my opinion the trends I marked are refusing this even on ideological level and thus I d |
| 208 | 1 | These are right-wing apropriations of anarchism that come from the radicalization of the ideas of liberal thinkers who influenced the pre-anarchists (since anarchism has its origins in both liberal and socialist ideas). Some of these confusion started because of Max Stirner who, despite being a ultraliberal, was mistaken by some as an anarchist. |
| 209 | 1 | Anarchism is a proletarian movement which grew out off the 1860's. Its has nothing to do with Christian-thinking like Tolstoy or a sophist like Max Stirner (Johann Schmidt). nor is it this life-style CrimethInc, Anarchsim is not a sub-cultur but a anti-thesis to capitalism. See "Black Flame: The Revolutionary Class Politics of Anarchism and Syndicalism." |
| 210 | 1 | never heard anyone claim to be an "academeic anarchist"; if anarchism is both the belief in the possibility of anarchy/free association and the organised movement towards such a society then the mere study of the ideology, the movement and it's history is not "anarchism". same regards lifestyle. "post-" clue is in the title, they don't claim to be anarchist but going beyond it. no idea what Crimethinc is. Anarchy comes from the Greek "anarchos", it means no masters, economic or political, ca |
| 211 | 1 | I think that at heart anarchism contains the productive tension between individual and community - any kind of individualism ignores this, encourages competition, and leads to hierarchy. |
| 212 | 1 | how can you be free in one way while ruled in another? I guess we all need some form of moral compass in which to guide us, but I see morality as being something we can achieve through rationality, not through rules dictated to us from the past. |
| 213 | 1 | For better or worse, all these tendencies of anarchism have historical precedents throughout the history of anarchism, and can fit within a definition of anarchism that concerns itself with social movements. Anarcho-capitalism and primitivism, however, are so radically different from the anarchist tradition that I think they fall far outside any comprehensive definition of "anarchism." |
| 214 | 1 | These tendencies doesn't have anything to do with anarchism other than the abolition of the state - and a lot of these tendencies has a wrong (meaning of course when talking anarchist theory) interpretation of why it is nececary to abolish the state |
| 215 | 1 | If I assume that "anarchy" means "without authority" and not "without government" then anarcho-capitalism is not "anarchism" in the technical sense. Either way I don't care what they call themselves, their a fringe, a loud fringe |
| 216 | 1 | same reason. |
| 217 | 1 | Capital inherently oppresses the individual through the mechanism of alienation. |
| 218 | 1 | I think revolution, particularly an insurrectionist, armed, led revolution, is authoritarian in and of itself. I don't think capitalism can be anarchist in any way, as it needs a government to govern itself. I think CrimethInc tends toward a white, middle class view of the world, or at least of the US, and suggests small acts of rebellion that amount to basically nothing in the long run. |
| 219 | 1 | NO GODS NO MASTERS |
| 220 | 1 | All of these that I have checked lack any serious class analysis of society or have not made any significant attempts to come up with any type of strategy for revolution. |
| 221 | 1 | Divides the working class |
| 222 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. Anarchism is centered around the minimalisation/abolishment of all authority and heirarchy in human relationships. Capitalism is a highly authoritarian economic system that requires a state to enforce it. You cannot believe in both Anarchism and Capitalism without being a moron. |
| 223 | 1 | Needs government force in order to maintain ownership of capital. |
| 224 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is an individualist, bourgeois notion. Anarcho-capitalism doesn't eliminate any power structures related to the economy, but in fact enforces and strengthens them. |
| 225 | 1 | Are not predicated on the aim of confronting and replacing authoritarian social relations. Individualism and primitivism are self-indulgent performance art...insurrectionism is similar since its actions can't possibly have any positive consequences (we can't kick the system until it breaks...we can, however, legitimize the system in the eyes of the vast majority who don't understand why the fuck people are throwing fireworks and petrol bombs and cops. |
| 226 | 1 | in my opinion anarchism is red at least to some degree that's why anarcho-capitalism is not anarchism primitivist want's alot of the human race to be removed from the face of the earth wich i don't find very anarchistic however if you belive primitivism is just moveing out of modern society and living in the nature then sure it's anarchism |
| 227 | 1 | See above, in short: Collectivism is slavery, unless you are free to be a part of the collective or not. |
| 228 | 1 | Capital and the Church dont belong in the emancipation of mankind. |
| 229 | 1 | In capitalism there're still economic rulers, which is contrary to anarchy (no rulers). In christian anarchism there's God or Jesus or whoever as a ruler, which is contrary to anarchy (no rulers). |
| 230 | 1 | If a small minority wants to pursue that path, then fine. If they are going to be ideologically dogmatic about it however, then I would have a problem. |
| 231 | 1 | Come on dawg, you know you can't be a christian or a capitalist and also an anarchist. Shit don't work. |
| 232 | 1 | Because total economic freedom negates all other freedoms. There cannot be private ownership and still freedom for everyone. |
| 233 | 1 | I don't consider any to be "not anarchist" because I don't pretend to have a monopoly on the use of the word "anarchism" even if I might still oppose other anarchist tendencies in theory and practice. |
| 234 | 1 | As with the question two boxes above, it's impossible for me to answer the question because you have neither defined the terms nor given examples of well-known anarchists who subscribe to them. |
| 235 | 1 | See above comment |
| 236 | 1 | Anyone who claims that they are the arbiter of exclusionism within anarchism is an asshat. |
| 237 | 1 | Capitalism is based on property titles divorced from usage and occupancy, which to me means it is built on theft. |
| 238 | 1 | I'm not informed enough to answer about all of them. |
| 239 | 1 | Capitalism & anarchy do not mix. |
| 240 | 1 | Platformism, because it seems to be that anarchist processes must be experimental, and adaptive, not static. Anarcho-capitalism, because for me that is an oxymoron, and there is no way around that in my head. Capitalism is the process by which the greatest amount of oppression and power and inequality happens in the world, so I do not see how something can be both anarcho and capitalist. I think it is really a term for neo-liberalism. But that may just be my inability to get it. |
| 241 | 1 | Capitalism is a form of coercion and domination |
| 242 | 1 | Primitivism (anti-civilisation) is anti-humanity... Therefore as bad as racist fascism, even if their vision is more positive. "Anarcho"-Capitalism is extremist Social Dariwnism... These bastards are not against exploitative capitalism OR authoritarian statism; they just want the National State (which is partly socialist and partly democratic) replaced with the Private Estate, which is neither of those things and is in fact locally totalitarian. Dictatorship of the Propertariat!!! I feel n |
| 243 | 1 | These are not Anarchist at all because one involves submission to a Corporation and the other involves submission to a god. Both promote slavery. |
| 244 | 1 | Difficult to say genuinely and not genuinely |
| 245 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism is not even anarchistic. Its a hierarchy between those who own property and those who don't. For primitivism to be achieved, many billions of humans must die. Individualism and Lifestyle anarchism don't achieve anything, bad strategy, the general population needs to be agitated. Christian Anarchism is not even anarchistic. Its a hierarchy between god and humans. CrimethInc is just conspiracies. Sectarianism divides us, we are stronger united. |
| 246 | 1 | Anarchism necessarily must go against structures of authority and oppression - and the main tool of authority and oppression in the world is Capitalism. Anarcho-Capitalism is a contradiction of terms and ends up looking a lot like right wing extreme free market economics! Lifestyle anarchism isn't necessarily a bad thing if it encourages people to think and act ethically or against the state, but it lacks any real backbone or political seriousness. Refusing to wear Nike is good, but it's not a |
| 247 | 1 | Any "anarchism" that repudiates class struggle and anti-capitalism has excluded itself from the genuine anarchist tradition. |
| 248 | 1 | Draw a line in the sand about who you want to associate and work with, sure. But this stupid "[s]he's not a real anarchist because I differ in opinion!" shit is idiotic and divisive. Criticize the ideas, find common ground, and move the fuck on. |
| 249 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism the problem resides in the title. Christian-Anarchism, I believe Anarchism and Religion do not mix. |
| 250 | 1 | In my thinking you can't be an anarchist and still believe in capitalism. Hiring someone to work for you and barking orders at them is not anarchism in anyway. I also selected individualism because you can't be free as an individual unless everyone else is free and that can only really be fully achieved through something like anarchist communism |
| 251 | 1 | I understand anarchism as a genuine social approach to organise society along peoples abilities and needs. Therefore a lone Anarchist cant behave anarchistic |
| 252 | 1 | Primitivsm: who really supports this nonsense? |
| 253 | 1 | goes against what i believe anarchism stands for |
| 254 | 1 | It sort of depends on what you mean by Lifestyle anarchism. Do I think that veganism, for example, is an anarchist principle? No, that's silly. It's not an effective tactic, it's a liberal individualist guilt trip of consumer politics, which are not anarchist in the least because they prefigure a world where the people with the most money have the most amount of say in how society is run. |
| 255 | 1 | Property is an authority structure. |
| 256 | 1 | none of the above shares the ideas of anarchist organizing. Anarcho-capitalism is simply worse than statecapitalism - anarchism is anticapitalist. |
| 257 | 1 | Same reasons as explained above. |
| 258 | 1 | It will turn the working class away. |
| 259 | 1 | My selections above reflect the tendencies that have moved firmly away from class-analysis. Insurrectionary anarchism does use class-analysis, its' just terribly misguided in its' methods. |
| 260 | 1 | Because to be Christian is to be subject to God law and god will. God is the king ion the sky. |
| 261 | 1 | Capitalist property is not compatible with anarchism as it is indistinguishable from a State. |
| 262 | 1 | The rhetoric is superficially very similar to populist anarchist rhetoric, but the motivations and undercurrents are antisemitism (third positionism) and racial nationalism (national anarchism). These exist to draw people away before they can truly understand that there's more to anarchism than just "opposition to israel" |
| 263 | 1 | "insurrection is good but fetishizing a tactic and being full of yourself is bad. if you really want to fuck shit up and youre so dedicated to the cause, use your privilege to put your actions to use in a setting where people are actually fighting something, not just breaking shit up and antagonizing cops. thats why youre not a threat." |
| 264 | 1 | same reason as above, capitalism has no place in anarchism |
| 265 | 1 | Answered above on primitivism. Anarchists are communists--not capitalists. I don't understand why "academic" anarchism is even up there. It's not a "type" of anarchism, nor is it a tendency. It's just a field some people work in, for fuck's suck. |
| 266 | 1 | Though I disagree with other tendancies these are the three tendancies where hierarchy isn't elimatinated within the ideology. anarcho capitalism and christian anarchism are not ideologies of eliminating all hierarchy. Platformism's a bit different but I think it negates individual freedom and therefore a desire for absolute freedom and justice for all is not contained within the ideology. |
| 267 | 1 | "anarcho-capitalism" because inherent in anarchism is the opposition to all forms of power--including capital--not just governments. |
| 268 | 1 | Anarcho Capitalism is a form of promoting capitalism under false slogans of "freedom". Primitivism means alienation from modern social issues and separation form the society. |
| 269 | 1 | I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean by "lifestyle anarchism" but I'm pretty sure by the name that I would probably think it not completely in line with anarchist principles. |
| 270 | 1 | No gods, no masters. Enough said. |
| 271 | 1 | see above. I also see problems with primitivism in that in order to achieve such a state some coercion is implied. At least by some authors. |
| 272 | 1 | These forms of anarchism are prescriptive, which is a curtailment of the freedom of inquiry everybody should enjoy, constituting ersatz authority. |
| 273 | 1 | I don't want to say what "could NEVER be anarchist" (except capitalism...) see answer above! |
| 274 | 1 | Anarchy is a communal concept, it can't be individualistic, nor capitalistic. Primitivism has more in common with ultra-conservatism, advocating a going back, while anarchy is a moving forward idea. And lifestylism glorifies irrelevance and isolation, rejecting the wider community that they live within. |
| 275 | 1 | Capitalist and Christian anarchism seem to contradict the ideas of freedom. |
| 276 | 1 | Same as above. It's just not in the tradition and it is clearly in opposition to at least one thing that was central to anarchism. |
| 277 | 1 | Well... in the case of primitivism, I think it's counter-productive and inaccessible to the vast majority of people. It isn't a practical solution. Anarcho-capitalism, though I don't claim to understand it well, strikes me as libertarian and self-defeating. I feel anarcho-capitalists fail to understand the power structures they are advocating and, like libertarians, how these structures inevitably lead to limits on human freedom. |
| 278 | 1 | anarchism is a community we are social organisms. jesus was a crook |
| 279 | 1 | all anarchists must be disciplined by the armed will of the proletarian state |
| 280 | 1 | Typically would go against what I would consider anarchy. IE through oppressive religion or rich getting the richer. |
| 281 | 1 | "Class" is a figment. People are people and should pursue their own goals. There is not boogieman business owner trying to suppress you. |
| 282 | 1 | See above! |
| 283 | 1 | because we must fight capitalism! (to create a better world) |
| 284 | 1 | Capitalism cannot exist without a state to protect/enforce it. |
| 285 | 1 | any organization that demands unquestioning obedience to its authority cannot be anarchist. btw - there is no such thing as "lifestyle anarchism." that is a derogatory term, and i think it shows a little about your own sectarianism that you have included it here. |
| 286 | 1 | If I had to pick one it'd be anarcho-capitalist. |
| 287 | 1 | insurrectionists strike me as hierarchical and vanguardist, christians have that god issue going, but i don't really think they're a problem but can be an ally, there's confused but okay. |
| 288 | 1 | They recognise the individual responsibility and at the same time promote the anarchist lifestyle. Anarchism starts at home from the individual approach to lifestyle we all chose as individuals. We cannot preach anarchism, we can only apply it and set a living example that others could choose to follow if so inclined. |
| 289 | 1 | New stuff- new ideas-nothing to do with anarchism |
| 290 | 1 | I think that Christian Anarchism is an oxymoron. Anarchism is about total liberation and religion is about restraint. Personally I think that all of these divisions of Anarchist philosophy are counterproductive to anything but philosophical masturbation. separating ourselves into all of these different groups is pointless if no serious change is being made in the first place. |
| 291 | 1 | oops see above |
| 292 | 1 | there are too many sects of anarchists a revolution will require a consolidation of these groups anarcho-capitalists and christian anarchists do not really believe the principles of equallity that anarchy would bring therefore they must be eliminated. |
| 293 | 1 | Capitalism is a main form of control and hierarchy, the abolition of the state is only part of freedom. Christianity subverts individual's will to what 'god' tells them to do. |
| 294 | 1 | short answer: capitalism (at least as understood) could never exist under "real" conditions of anarchism. and vice versa. |
| 295 | 1 | In a society without an overarching authority such as a centralized government, people and communities cannot afford to have overwhelmingly capitalistic and individualistic tendencies. |
| 296 | 1 | The central tenets of both these strands are completely contrary to those of actual anarchism. Hierarchy, capitalism and private property? No!! |
| 297 | 1 | Individualism is a misunderstood interpretation of the freedom of the individual in an anarchist society. Anarchism involves social structures, sanctions and cooperation, which makes it anything but individualist. To link capitalism with anarchism is not serious. A capitalist society involves principles like profit, private property and the trading of labour. None of these values are shared by anarchism. Anarchism is a socialist tradition. Anarchism is not about religious philosophy, it is |
| 298 | 1 | Same reason as above. |
| 299 | 1 | They are burgeois trends, not proletarian ones. |
| 300 | 1 | I am not familiar with the above terms. |
| 301 | 1 | the word capitalism mostly. |
| 302 | 1 | Because they are all shit. No hippy shit in the here and now, no wage slavery in the future. Or eating each other to keep the population down. |
| 303 | 1 | I think nobody has the right to judge others genuine or non-genuine. Doing your part and working towards a more equal and free earth is way better than bitter criticism. |
| 304 | 1 | Both have embedded hierarchies in their cosmology/philosophy and just don’t recognize it. |
| 305 | 1 | "Anarcho"-capitalism is contradictory. Capitalism maintains the separation of the producers from their means of production, which creates an authoritarian class-system in which the workers must submit themselves to the authority of the capitalist/owner classes in order to survive, sometimes barely, and in order to produce. Anarchism does not simply stem from the Greek term for "without government" but "without rulers". |
| 306 | 1 | Anarchism is about social struggles and classwar. Not about god or making money. It's not just about the absence of a state, it's about solidarity. Anarchism is not about survival of the fittest or superegoism. |
| 307 | 1 | wage labor and private property are our biggest enemy/target. |
| 308 | 1 | guess! |
| 309 | 1 | I can't believe people draw these boundaries :) |
| 310 | 1 | Christian Anarchism holds fallacious ideas about a supreme master in the sky, which I find unacceptable. Anarcho-Capitalists would allow the 'free market' to reign free on people without control based in the people's ability to protect one another from harm. |
| 311 | 1 | blah blah blah, just live. |
| 312 | 1 | the same as above |
| 313 | 1 | Already told it... |
| 314 | 1 | Capitalism? What the fuck. |
| 315 | 1 | Anarchocapitalist seeks to destroy this world of states, and possibly damage many dominant corporations in the process, so that a new world of corporations and capitalist enterprises can sweep in and take power. It draws comparison to the Leninist project of destroying THIS state and replacing it with a new, possibly more brutal state. I don't think anarchocapitalism is the same as market anarchism. A market anarchist (rightly) understands that the market will always exist in some kind of rudime |
| 316 | 1 | Capitalism is by definitional hierarchical and heavily depends on the state (e.g. enclosures, which required the state to kick people off their land, so they could become capitalists) |
| 317 | 1 | I think anarcho-communism is the best idea at present to garantee egality and individual freedom. |
| 318 | 1 | All are anarchist, if they reject the idea of rulers. However, anarcho-syndicalist, Anarchist Communist and other collectivist anarchists all require initiating violence in order to be sustainable and this is also contradictory to the idea of anarchy. |
| 319 | 1 | I must admit to not knowing enough about platformism or insurrectionary anarchism. I tried to read something on insurrectionary anarchism, but honestly didn't understand it. I sometimes worry that the "one big union" promoted by anarcho-syndicalists may become just another state, although I can't object to it as long as it doesn't initiate force or fraud in order to achieve its goals. The two I am saying I reject is Anomism (which is, more or less, what I would say the fictional character |
| 320 | 1 | Anarchism was fairly well defined in the 19th century and the checked above don't fit the definition. |
| 321 | 1 | Because Christianity as a whole is higherarchle structure in its churches and administration |
| 322 | 1 | Primitivism does not realise that anarchism can be achieved at any stage of material development, as it places emphasis on a particular material existence to achieve Anarchy, whereas in actuality anarchism exists in the social relations between people, which can then build the material conditions they chose. If by 'academic anarchism' it is meant restricting oneself to academia, then it is not possible for anarchism to exist physically and materially, as anarchism needs to be present in manu |
| 323 | 1 | can't be an anarchist unless you recognize the coercion and exploitation inherent in a regime of private property and capital growth |
| 324 | 1 | Violence and revolutionary action advocates violence against people who are not even aware that they are committing violence. This closes thier minds to being educated about their ownership of themselves and subsequent principles implied by that. Violence is a very specific specialization of labor that requires strict heirarchy to function. people steeped in this necessaey heirarchy forget how to step out of it when it is no longer required. Violence begets tyrants. |
| 325 | 1 | No ideology |
| 326 | 1 | Because they lead to unjust hierarchies |
| 327 | 1 | individualism is egoism the real anarchy is co-operative |
| 328 | 1 | I don't wholly reject market anarchists (I am one, after all) - many are consistent and genuine about their anti-authoritarianism; but most people who ID as 'anarcho-capitalists' (as opposed to 'agorists' and 'mutualists') seem to have a paleoconservative bent that's completely out of step with anarchism. Someone like Hans Hoppe is a good example of this paleoconservative breed of 'anarchist' who only want to see state authority rolled back so they can practice their own form of private totalita |
| 329 | 1 | Said it all above. |
| 330 | 1 | In the end this is not an important question - there are too few anarchists, and too much work to be done, to spend our time and energy weeding out certain people. |
| 331 | 1 | The "anarcho-capitalist" position is usually arrived at by Idealizing capital's organizing tendencies and considering these tendencies to be sufficient for society's function. In this process, the State is seen as superfluous at best and at worst, an interferance with the liberty of Capital and it's owners. This is not a theory that rejects rule, authority, hierarchy, or dominance in any substantial way. It accepts the legitimacy of the domination of capital a priori and takes off from there. Th |
| 332 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism would create unaccountable hierarchy. If it were possible to have capitalism without state-government, such an anarcho-capitalist society would have the potential to be even more oppressive than the one we have now. Interestingly enough, this harsh stance is coming from an ex-anarcho-capitalist. |
| 333 | 1 | Primitivism, only because its central focus is anti-civilization. |
| 334 | 1 | Same as previous |
| 335 | 1 | Anarchy hasn't anything to do with neither capitalism nor religion |
| 336 | 1 | What it mean "genuinely anarchist"? |
| 337 | 1 | All of them are genuinely anarchist, I just disagree with certain ideologies' beliefs. |
| 338 | 1 | Not anti-state and anti-capital. Or, alternatively, batshit insane (primitivism). |
| 339 | 1 | Capitalism is one of the dominant, controlling institutions in our lives and is based on exploitation and hierarchy. It has nothing to do with anarchism, never has and never will. |
| 340 | 1 | Too many labels, can't be bothered to research them. |
| 341 | 1 | I'd hesitate to call it counter-revolutionary but marx is full of problems as Bakunin so wisely foresaw. If you prioritize the elimination of corporations over the state to the degree you co-operate with the state (or vice versa) you're not an anarchist. |
| 342 | 1 | Christian Anarchism: If anarchism is defined as 'no authority' I cannot see how a Christian god con not command authority and obedience. Anarcho-Capitalism: how can a capitalist system (albeit without a state) exist without class societies, private property war and famine? Just because police or armies are private businesses does not make them better than state armies or police. If I wanted to exist without capitalism in an anarcho-capitalist world would that be OK? then why not just have ana |
| 343 | 1 | I do not believe they fit withing the broad, class-struggle anarchist tradition. |
| 344 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism is, to me, where the heart of anarchy lies. To me, you can talk forever about anarchist theory, but if you're still so willing to buy into the capitalist system for frivolous sweat-shop made trinkets and greasy am sandwiches, you clearly are not getting it. I take a tangible, on-the-ground approach to anarchism; dumpstering food for people who would otherwise be under-nourished, helping sexual abuse victims through the hell they'd been put through, giving crash space to peopl |
| 345 | 1 | Christianity can been seen as bowing to a ruler. As God is the ultimate ruler and as such is a contradiction of Anarchism. The Bible also states, "Submit yourself to every ordinance of man . . . to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors." |
| 346 | 1 | I think a great deal of care for others and respect for technology is inherently and obviously needed to build and maintain a functioning anarchist society. |
| 347 | 1 | I think the primitivists offer some useful critiques, but that overall it is an offshoot of anarchism rather than anarchist proper. More power to them, but I just don't see them having much to do with anarchism anymore. |
| 348 | 1 | Capitalist believe in private property rights. This is just ridiculous. |
| 349 | 1 | I do not see the connection between religion and anarchism. |
| 350 | 1 | Though I'm somewhat of a moderate primitivist, it remains a separate ideology with a few overlapping trends. |
| 351 | 1 | Should be obvious to anybody who both calls himself an anarchist but not a pro-capitalist. Capitalist concepts of ownership basically grant the owner the privileges of a dictator. |
| 352 | 1 | Anarchism for me is first and foremost embodied around the values of solidarity, mutual-aid, self-determination (autogestion) and real commitment. |
| 353 | 1 | If I was a genuine anarchist, would I be filling out an online survey? |
| 354 | 1 | Anarchism is a freedom discourse and Capitalism is exploitation and counter to freedom... I personally have a problem with any authority, especially God...but if you've worked this one out for yourself, great...let me know... |
| 355 | 1 | Both of these groups are anarchist if the word is just taken to mean "anti-state" (so is Genghis Khan!), but they're not anarchist in the sense of being against "-archy", against hierarchy, authority and oppression in general. Anarcho-capitalists believe in hierarchical relations between rich and poor, and between boss and worker. National anarchists believe in hierarchical relations among nations or races. Generally I don't like calling takfir on people though, except when I'm angry. It's |
| 356 | 1 | I don't like to judge others about what is or isn't "genuine" anarchism. That seems like a dubious road to go down. |
| 357 | 1 | The individual is nothing but the I. Ego does not build a community, and it takes a community to raise children. You also need a community to have a decent coffee shop for booze and dance. |
| 358 | 1 | Not buddhist enough. |
| 359 | 1 | I take anarchism to entail, at a minimum, an opposition to dramatic power disparities of the kind produced by capitalism. |
| 360 | 1 | NO |
| 361 | 1 | As I mentioned before, "anarcho"-capitalists are rather ultra liberals since they praise a status of free market based on capitalism. In few words, that means that they are in favour of the distinction wich keeps capitalism alive, that is the distinction between exploiters and exploited. Moreover, though anarchy means banning the state, banning the state does not always lead to anarchy. "Anarcho"-capitalists are the best example of this misguiding. |
| 362 | 1 | Depends on the person more than the label. |
| 363 | 1 | capitalism inherently secures a degree of hierarchy. |
| 364 | 1 | There's not much reconciliation to be had between Anarchism and Capitalism |
| 365 | 1 | God is a master, Anarchy means no Masters. this seems an obvious oxymoron. Same of the individual, the platform and trade. |
| 366 | 1 | For the same reasons as above really. For me anarchism is necessarily anti-capitalist. |
| 367 | 1 | I think that anarcho-capitalism is the result of misinterpretations of Individualist anarchism by Rothbard. Anarcho-capitalists try to "adapt" anarchism to austrian economics (i.e. to capitalism) by ignoring the very important part about equality (and the critique of wage-labor) inherent to anarchism. Anarcho-capitalism stands for "individuals living against each other", while anarchism stands for "individuals living with each other". |
| 368 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is the obvious one. I think that the anarchist tradition is a left/anti-capitalist one and the label "anarcho-capitalist" is a misnomer. Capitalism and wage labour is incompatible with the freedom of individuals and communities, and thus not really anarchism. My distain for Post-anarchism has less to do with what post-anarchists say and more to do with what they do. I think Post-anarchism is too far removed from working class struggles. I also think that it easily lends its |
| 369 | 1 | -- |
| 370 | 1 | its not a "lifestyle" ....and a life based on accumulating , for the individual,, wealth & purchased power & priveledge is NOT fucking ANRCHISM. |
| 371 | 1 | Taxation is extortion. Trade is voluntary. Syndicalists appear to oppose voluntary market trades and "capitalism" as much or more than they oppose the statist concept of taxation. |
| 372 | 1 | Capitalism openly embraces economic inequality. How can you possibly have freedom without equality? Isn't the existence of an "upper class" a form of hierarchy? I wish they'd just call themselves libertarians so people would stop getting them confused with real anarchists. |
| 373 | 1 | A premised based on a status quo characteristic is not anarchist in nature. |
| 374 | 1 | I think they all deserve their relationship with anarchy in the deep sense (no hierarchy). |
| 375 | 1 | Capitalism, by its very nature, entails hierarchy. |
| 376 | 1 | Either they work within the political system, which is contradictory and ineffective for any sort of positive revolution, or they are not truly anarchistic, not against coercion and undeserved leadership. |
| 377 | 1 | No Gods |
| 378 | 1 | It's not my business saying who is or is not "genuinely" anarchist, and I consider this kind of discussion to itself be a problem within the anarchist community. Issues are more important than labels - the language itself causes unnecessary divisions. |
| 379 | 1 | Based on my understanding of Anarchism our goals are to maximize the Freedom and Equality of all persons no matter who they are. We in the Anarchist community cannot seriously take Sectarian ideals seriously without sacrificing something intrinsic within out movement. I have a hard time accepting individualists Anarchists as serious members of our community because their logical extension is Anarcho-Capitalism. Though I believe that Murray Rothbard's principles of peaceful and voluntary excha |
| 380 | 1 | Property is theft |
| 381 | 1 | All these have anarchistic threads - and all can be genuinely anarchist - those who profess to believe in them may not be however. |
| 382 | 1 | Capitalism is protected by the state, without the state, there can be no capitalism |
| 383 | 1 | Christian anarchism believes there is a god that rules above us. Anarchism believes in "no gods, no masters". The two are diametrically opposed. |
| 384 | 1 | I don't know enough about the various tendencies to make an informed decision. |
| 385 | 1 | Community is necessary. 'post' stuff is often overly cynical and elitist. capitalism is largely incompatible with anarchism. |
| 386 | 1 | Not being familiar with all the above flavors, I do not consider tendencies that advocate violence against persons to be anarchist. |
| 387 | 1 | They do not fit in the broad, class struggle anarchist tradition. |
| 388 | 1 | See: my "problematic trends in anarchism today" |
| 389 | 1 | It's non-sensical. Capitalism and anarchism do not mix. Structures of heirarchy, power and unequal-ness are intrinsical to captalism, It's everything anarchism shouldn't be. |
| 390 | 1 | Duh. |
| 391 | 1 | i'm not the judge of "anarchism" |
| 392 | 1 | Lazy, mindless splitters. |
| 393 | 1 | Because they are products of the bourgeois mortality, and have no relation the concrete totality of the worker. Sorry I don't want to elaborate anymore. |
| 394 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism isn't a form of anarchism in my opinion. It surely has some similarities (it opposes the state), but doesn't see the importance in searching for and changing the "root of evil". An anarcho-capitalist wants to establish a "market" that uses opression to control its participants. The force is outsourced, but not destroyed. |
| 395 | 1 | Primitivism will lead to a massive die-off and would only take us back to "square root," explicit hierarchies will likely re-develop. Anarcho-Capitalism is based on a simplistic view of anarchism as just "anti-state" when it's "anti-hierarchy," capitalism is a hierarchical class system athat is antithetical to anarchism. |
| 396 | 1 | The only rational form or anarchism is one that recognize the non-aggresion principle and private property right. |
| 397 | 1 | Force should be used in self-defense only. |
| 398 | 1 | Though I am sympathetic to primitivist ideology- I don't feel that it is inherently a subcategory of anarchism. Primitivism does not intrinsically disable coercion/force, which is imo the common ground of all forms of anarchism. |
| 399 | 1 | Because their systems of value are dicatated by mass culture. |
| 400 | 1 | It seems like all forms of anarchism would independently develop in a purely anarchist world. |
| 401 | 1 | Christian Anarchism is the easiest to refute simply because a deity is not egalitarian. |
| 402 | 1 | You don't need to advocate for the abolition of property in order to be an anarchist, but if you want to suck profit out of labour you're no anarchist. |
| 403 | 1 | One of the defining conditions of a capitalist socioeconomic order is the legitimation of private ownership of the means of production. This necessarily entails the legitimation of socioeconomic class, and breeds a system of hierarchy and domination. To think that all of this can somehow be reconciled with a strain of thought and action which takes the delegitimation of authority, domination, and hierarchy as its starting point (until such manifestations of power can be justified) is perhaps bey |
| 404 | 1 | Christian Anarchism still has a god and master, therefore in the purist sense it is not anarchist. Anarcho-capitalism rejects the anarchists negative disposition towards capitalism as an economic model and is therefore a non-sensical stand point. Crimethinc just give everyone a bad name, they're a bit ridiculous. |
| 405 | 1 | Individualism, the problem here is that our very existence impacts on someone else. My individual choice to poison a river for example, will affect others. |
| 406 | 1 | Individualism/collectivism is a false dichotomy. The emphasis on the individual has an atomizing affect on "individualist anarchists". CrimethInc's lack of historical perspective renders it impotent as a social movement. Anarcho-capitalism is incredibly bogus, having the most dubious connections with the main body of anarchism. I believe it was a deliberate move on the part of Murray Rothbard and other Rand-types to siphon steam away from the anarchist movement in America. Christian anarchism |
| 407 | 1 | Capitalism is hierarchical and therefore incompatible with anarchy. It also requires a state to enforce private property. |
| 408 | 1 | Please see above. |
| 409 | 1 | I really hate to call something 'genuinely anarchist', but since many of these tendencies are simply not true I decided to pick some of them. |
| 410 | 1 | They all oppose authority. Their interpretations of what authority is and to what degree we can accept some authority in a remote sense simply differ. It may be a definition and |
| 411 | 1 | Sure anarchistism attempts to address interpersonal corrosive social hierarchies and whatnot, and okay yeah it's a self interest thing where we want to create a world were we have more personal liberty, but lifestyle shit actually just alienates folks from everyone else, and puts them in the positions where they have access to less resources. So they have no leverage through which to effectively address or attack the state or capital. |
| 412 | 1 | capitalism depends on the state in order to defend private property rights. and private defense forces are too similar to states. |
| 413 | 1 | see above question also. syndicalism is beneficial until such time as a revolution were to happen (it's a good transition tool). i find crimethinc to be a little lifestylist. christian anarchism as a form of institutionalised religion runs counter to freedom (especially as much of the writings were constructed to keep a slave class in line). whilst i love post-structuralism as a theory, it is ony possible for people to conceive of post-structuralism (and post-modernism) due to there being |
| 414 | 1 | They have history behind them. They are not the only fruit of separeated from reality thinking. Even individualist feed and spread the need for liberty even if Plaformism is a more effective way to change society. |
| 415 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalist philosophy is based on a number of unexamined, unquestioned, and hidden premises, such as: industry is good and necessary; private property, and the exchange thereof, is good and necessary; law enforcement, military forces, courts, schools, and other definitively oppressive and hierarchical institutions are necessary and good; a centralized state is desirable and necessary; ad nauseam. This is an incomplete and topical analysis, but sufficient for the purpose of this survey. |
| 416 | 1 | Lifestyle, Capitalist, and Christian anarchism all come in to conflict with ideas that I see as central to anarchism. |
| 417 | 1 | Lifestyle Anarchism removes you from society and community, and while this isn;t always a bad thing, if its all you do then it has a negative impact. Anarcho-Capitalism still ends up in a hierarchical class society. |
| 418 | 1 | I was going to say christian anarchism, because it doesn't make sense to me (one who digs non-hierarchal societal design) why an anarchist would believe in an authoritative god. but then it struck me that maybe they just don't want earthly governments, because they are false authorities. so it's all good. |
| 419 | 1 | Written above. |
| 420 | 1 | syndicalism and capitalism may not require a state on paper, but both effect all the coercive trappings of one, snd inevitably lead to one in the end. |
| 421 | 1 | well, anarchism is against capital and class exploitation, not for it, so anarcho-capitalism is out. anarchists are against all authority, including that of God (if he or she or it exists), so christian anarchism is an oxymoron. |
| 422 | 1 | Freedom to be exploited is a contradiction in terms. |
| 423 | 1 | Anarchism is about voluntary associations. Groups that use violence to achieve their ends are not anarchists. |
| 424 | 1 | Capitalism cannot exist without a state to back it up. |
| 425 | 1 | because it means a concrete application of theoric principles... |
| 426 | 1 | "Anarchism" and "capitalism" are mutually exclusive - with which at least some of the people who get falsely lumped under that label would agree. |
| 427 | 1 | who can define what is anarchist? i think it is fine to be any of these things, as long as your actions in the name of these things does not infringe on anyone else's freedom. |
| 428 | 1 | If something could be labeled "not genuinely anarchist" than the whole definition of anarchism as I understand it would be fucked. |
| 429 | 1 | Anarchism is not a supermarket where you can pick whatever you want and put it together afterward. Also, there is nowehere in anarchism mass movement and "classical" litterature, some conservative notions that emphasis only on individuals, university, destroy technology, or DIY, etc... This is a general statement about the importance of the society as a whole, progress has human progress (good use of technology), mass movement. Never forget that anarchism is born against capitalism and the st |
| 430 | 1 | About Anarcho Capitalism: Socialism without freedom is slavery, freedom without socialism is privilege. Lifestyle Anarchists and primitivists are usually the kids who haven't studied the anarchist philosophy. |
| 431 | 1 | How are we to abolish civilization and technology without killing millions or billions of people? |
| 432 | 1 | counter-productive |
| 433 | 1 | Same reasons |
| 434 | 1 | individualism: there can be no individual without a social body. That thinkers like Nietzche or Stirner, feared the way in which modern industrial society was alienating humans and turning them into automatons, doesn't mean that individuals are created alone, without the intervention of society in their upbringing, and in the conclusions they draw out from their times.Anarchism is maybe the balance between these two qualities of humanity, their conciousnes as unique individuals and their necesit |
| 435 | 1 | Indiviudalism ignores the collective and anarcho-capitalism ignores the power or private property. |
| 436 | 1 | Anarchism is inherently anti-capitalist. End of story. |
| 437 | 1 | Crimethinc lifestlyes are about living off the excesses of capitalism, stealing from large stores and eating from dumpsters. These activites are alright I suppose but they do not offer a solution to capitalism, they are not revolutionary. This kind of behaviour demonstrates a dependence on the staus quo. |
| 438 | 1 | I am against capitalism because it creates more racism, sexism, classism, and poverty. It exploits human beings for profit and places the value of profit above the value of human beings. For these reasons I think all anarchists should oppose capitalism, and that is why I am against anarcho-capitalism. I'm against individualism because it says that individual freedom is more important than liberating groups of oppressed people. I believe all anarchists should consider liberating all groups of peo |
| 439 | 1 | Reactionary. |
| 440 | 1 | Individualism - anarchism is social, just like human life; Primitivism - anarchism is a progressive/modern (although sensible to the "other" and not deterministic) philosophy/praxis; Post-anarchism - PoMo giberish; CrimethInc/Lyfestyle anarchism - don't know enough about them to say anything but I'm thinking that the only reason why I don't include academic anarchism is because I'm an academic myself... Anarcho-Capitalism - not anarchist at all! Christian Anarchism - religion is the opium o |
| 441 | 1 | As stated above I don't believe that religion is compatible with maximizing liberties and freedoms, hence I don't believe Christian Anarchists are true Anarchists. As for Anarcho-Capitalists, an ideology based upon something as inherently oppressive as the free market don't truly believe in freedoms but instead in keeping the rich rich and the poor poor. As for Individualists there is no logical way to care about freedom and then restrict it to a single person and not to humanity as a whole. |
| 442 | 1 | Discussed above. |
| 443 | 1 | This is a biased survey. The choices of types of anarchism change with different questions. And how could you miss Agorism? |
| 444 | 1 | crimethinc isn't anarchism in the same way that me taking a dump isn't anarchism, they just have nothing to do with each other. while shoplifting, squatting, drinking malt liquor, and hitchiking can all be a real good time, they don't have shit to do with anarchism, organizing, class struggle, etc, especially considering the ammount of privilege inherent with doing these activities frequently. i mean, i can't do all this super fun stuff all the time because i have bills to pay, and my parents ar |
| 445 | 1 | it is we (all anarchist types) against them (the rest), no need to call other friends "false anarchist" |
| 446 | 1 | right-wing libertarians and poseurs |
| 447 | 1 | I feel anarchism is simply a different way of thinking and doing things, usually non-hierarchicaly, and autonmously. Scholars and "armchair anarchist" while they play a huge part in theorizing are not genuine especially if they continue to live a consumerist lifestyle, however to a certain extent I am one. Capitalism is economic system that seems contradictory to anarchism, and one I could not support though perhaps in small scale it is not as destructive. |
| 448 | 1 | same |
| 449 | 1 | anarchism is a mutualism and capitalism as ruling (or, over-riding) system is objectifying to people, which does not allow mutual exchange, capital relations are profoundly authoritarian, not called wage-slavery for nothing not deeply thought out, but in short |
| 450 | 1 | The reason I ticked off 'Individualism' is not that I am against the idea of individualism per se, but because too many focus solely on ego, forgetting the collective. Anarchism has always been a constant strive towards combining individualism and collectivism in the best possible way. |
| 451 | 1 | I don't really care because anarchism is a broken word, which originally meant an opposition to the 7 chief magistrates (arkos, or archons) of Greece |
| 452 | 1 | Seems to me capitalism is antithetical to anarchism. |
| 453 | 1 | I don't believe that anarchists, if they believe in a world with no hierarchy, and they live by their own set of standards and moral codes, should subscribe to something that has a "higher power". It is just another way of having something above us. |
| 454 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism, because it advocates FOR private property which is against a basic tenet of anarchism, in my opinion. Primitivism, because any return to hunter/gatherer society would entail mass genocide and because I believe technology, though it has flaws in the way it's in use tofay, can be useful to a free society. |
| 455 | 1 | ancapitalism have diferent base, not as individualism, it is hierarchical and do not guaranted freedom. |
| 456 | 1 | It's hierarchical and contradictory. |
| 457 | 1 | Either they are not based in praxis or they are non-humanist (i.e. placing importance on the potential value and goodness of human beings) |
| 458 | 1 | Primitivism really is more about a specific trend within it that advocates disengaging with mainstream culture as opposed to confronting within it. |
| 459 | 1 | Anything to do with capitolism is a lie |
| 460 | 1 | CrimethInc, Lifestyle anarchism and Anarcho-Capitalism lack the revolutionary theorie and praxis. they are just getting along with the system. religions are not possible in an anarchist society. anarchists need clear minds and resposibility for what they do and why (not god). |
| 461 | 1 | i am not the anarchist police. |
| 462 | 1 | Primitivism is not anarchism, it is a sectarian apocalyptic cult. However, Derrick Jensen has a lot of valid points. Anarchism is opposed to capitalism. However, I see the free market anarchism (free market anti-capitalism) as a positive tendency. |
| 463 | 1 | Even though anarcho-capitalists (in theory) oppose things like corporations and believe business can take care of itself, people, and the environment, by its nature, capitalism will breed a system that is quite similar to the current one. While anarcho-capitalism may work for a short time, greed and power would eventually corrupt it and create a hierarchal system. |
| 464 | 1 | Being an anarchist mean you are a socialist. therefore its not posible to be a capitalist |
| 465 | 1 | I dont see how capitalism can go in hand with anarchism. i guess for them the more right definition would be "libertarian capitalism" or something like this... |
| 466 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism supports various measures which will most likely create a state, or a de facto state. It also corrupts the individualist anarchist tradition, and with its emphasis on anti-political work means a lack of productivity and action which is antithetical to the anarchist tradition. |
| 467 | 1 | Explaining why anything containing the word "capitalism" isn't genuinely anarchist is like explaining why mice and poison are not mutually compatible. I would like to say that anarchism is not compatible with individualism either, although probably that's some shakier ground since as long as there is no hierarchy, technically individualism should fall within the bounds. But I feel that individualism is so impractical and so contrary to the basic core of anarchism (SOCIETY without government/h |
| 468 | 1 | Christian anarchism because it is religious, Anarcho-capitalism because capitalism creates systemic hierarchies. |
| 469 | 1 | Who am I to tell one what they can and cannot consider anarchy? |
| 470 | 1 | I don't feel that I know enough about theories of anarchism to answer this question |
| 471 | 1 | individualism: the individual is only free when collective needs or history are considered, like the collective need or cultural background/experience of women or poor people must be considerd when creating a society (making decisions, planning, organizing) to create opportunities for individuals belonging to this group. for example. and the indivudal is always part of a group. primitivsm: development is not always positive, but it doesnt equal that going backwards is. primitivsm is for egoc |
| 472 | 1 | Because it still values money above all else. Look at America. The monopoly in the private sector makes me sick. |
| 473 | 1 | With Usura there is no clear demarcation |
| 474 | 1 | to make such a decision seems to not be 'anarchist'... |
| 475 | 1 | You can't be a capitalist while being an anarchist, that's just silly, even stupid. |
| 476 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism ultimately defines anarchism merely as opposition to the State, which is overly simplistic. Capitalism results in very authoritarian structures, and there is no good reason why it'd go away with the State. |
| 477 | 1 | everything mentioned above. |
| 478 | 1 | The first concept promotes the hierarchy, while the latter promotes a stagnation of creativity, an idea inherent within the realm of the Christian belief system. |
| 479 | 1 | They could all argue an anarchist position. What they are not is class struggle internationalists |
| 480 | 1 | The anarchist movement is not a church. Who am I to judge whether somebody is genuinely anarchist? |
| 481 | 1 | No one has the authority to define what "genuine" Anarchism is. But approaches that give cause for concern, primitivism as nihilism which calls for the deaths of millions of people in order to be rewilded, and Anarcho-Capitalism such as that proposed by the Mises institute -- although there are some AnCaps that aren't as deluded. They're just American. |
| 482 | 1 | I'm not very concerned with who gets to be considered "genuinely" anarchist. |
| 483 | 1 | As an aside, despite my complaints about Primitivism, I still think it is very much a valid anarchist movement. Anarcho-Capitalism is, however, another matter. Capitalism in it's present form clearly could not exist without the power of the government stepping in to preserve it - whether it be through armed repression of movements against industry or trillions upon trillions of dollars spent to keep them going. That said, an absolute free market economy would be interesting, but ultimately in |
| 484 | 1 | capitalism cannot be without a ruler or rulers in one way or another. You only have a choice between whom you want to be enslaved by. |
| 485 | 1 | all unite, no one alone. |
| 486 | 1 | Higher-power, have trends in the assumption that the earth will end at God's hands, putting faith in God instead of themselves, each other. Its possible to be anarchist and christian, it is only difficult, because of the preconceived idea that we are below someone else and there is something stronger above protecting us. Christianity and anarchism brings in hierarchical systems oftentimes. |
| 487 | 1 | No opposition to authority, just authority over themselves in particular. |
| 488 | 1 | How can something be or not be genuinely anarchist? Who is deciding? The global anarchist assembly? Sure anarchisms don't have to fit into a particular mileux or collective but there is no 'capital A' Anarchism, foolz |
| 489 | 1 | Some insurrectionists I'd call anarchists and others not. There has to be a social aspect to it. As for Christians, it depends how much they adhere to the religious structures. |
| 490 | 1 | I consider the accumulation of property a form of domination and hierarchy, and anti-thetical to anarchism. |
| 491 | 1 | I simply do not understand how you can call yourself anarchist and still follow an invisible master. |
| 492 | 1 | Capitalism most closely correlates with feudalism, and is by nature authoritarian. |
| 493 | 1 | I think that some of the anti-propertarian and anti-capitalist rhetoric of some collectivist schools comes at the expense of anti-authoritarianism. |
| 494 | 1 | Mutualism has potential in some places, but capitalism necessitates an underclass. I have a problem with currency. It's all too sketchy. |
| 495 | 1 | Because capitalism is hierachial. |
| 496 | 1 | Pretty damn bourgeois. |
| 497 | 1 | Dont/cant lead to anarchism. |
| 498 | 1 | As stated before. I'm not really familiar with the other terms though, so I can't comment. |
| 499 | 1 | To me, Anarcho-Capitalism is a rationalization and reduction of anarchist principles in order to accommodate amoral capitalist ideals. |
| 500 | 1 | anarcho-syndicalism isn't particularly considered anarchism at all. plus i dont know what post-anarchism is, but if it's POST of something i can assume that it's not particularly associatable with it. The rest are self evident. |
| 501 | 1 | As Ive understand anarcho-syndicalism, which might be a wrong understanding, is that the society are built upon many unions, and in that case it will be some authorities and not a real anarchy necessary. What goes for anarcho-capitalism, with the reason on the previous question, I dont see how it will make people free from oppression neither. |
| 502 | 1 | As above for Primitivism/Lifestyle/CrimethInc/Insurrectionism. Anarcho-capitalism is not anarchist because capitalism relies on the state by definition. There are legitimate market anarchisms, such as agorism and mutualism, however. |
| 503 | 1 | people believe what they want to, so how can one judge the relativism of anrchism |
| 504 | 1 | Primitivism is not anarchist since it demands the total dissolution of civilization in its entirety, including all the medical breakthroughs and technological advances that have made our lives better for the most part. To do this requires a hierarchy, since nobody would just voluntarily give up all their technology. Lifestyle anarchism doesnt seem to be part of the real anarchist movement, since they dont seem to have any goals, only lots of problems and talk about "the system". Anarcho-capitali |
| 505 | 1 | To much to go into to detail without writing a 500 page book on why these aren't "genuine anarchist[s]". Put it this way- there were no ancaps in the first international, and as I can recall, the anarchist movement from it's build up from the mid-19th century up until the various revolutions never advocated living off the grid and being a drop out culture nor did they condemn techonology or what not. These positions are anti-authoritarian and compatible (with the exception of "anarcho"-capitalis |
| 506 | 1 | all are anti state, all are allies |
| 507 | 1 | I don't believe anarchism is reconcilable with religion of any description |
| 508 | 1 | see above. I have not included lifestyle anarchism here because honestly it's been a part of our tradition for ever. That is one of the reasons why I sometimes hesitate to call myself an anarchist, but it would be dishonest to pretend its not "real anarchism" to wear funny clothes and be a vegan. |
| 509 | 1 | Academia, always has its time, place and a platform, why else would aspirant anarchists/isnts always be sprouting Proudhon, Althusser, Bakunin, Barthes, Lacan, to justify their point |
| 510 | 1 | oxymorons |
| 511 | 1 | I suppose Christian Anarchism is not anarchism because they still derive their moral adsolutes by using an irrational method, ie faith, and incorollary, are dominated by a subjective system, ie God, God's morals, ie pastor Bobs morals. |
| 512 | 1 | My anarchy is better then your anarchy! |
| 513 | 1 | INDIVIDUALISM IS VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE COMMUNITY SPIRIT NECESSARY FOR ANARCHISM TO SUCCEED; LIFESTYLE ANARCHISM IS TOO ATTACHED TO TREND AND FAD TO HAVE FIRM ROOTS IN SOUND ANARCHIST IDEOLOGY. |
| 514 | 1 | anarcho-capitalism and individualism are imo the same, and the only real anarchism because there are no compromises. |
| 515 | 1 | Anarcho-Capitalism because it is, frankly, capitalism. I refer to Anarchism as a sort of socialism. Christian Anarchism because it, as I have understood it, glorifies a "greater being". Anarchism with some sort of leader is not anarchism. In my opinion. |
| 516 | 1 | I think I covered that above. |
| 517 | 1 | It depends. I think primivitism is antithetical to anarchism because if successful it would result in the oppression of women and people with disabilities. Anarcho-capitalism is antithetical to anarchism because it would continue the exploitation of labor power. I think the rest of these except for platformism are problematic in that they are not directed toward building mass movements and mass-based organizations. In my view that activity is a necessary condition for revolution. These anarc |
| 518 | 1 | For me anarchism is fundamentally no gods, no masters. If christian-anarchists want to believe that there shouldn't be masters than they are my ally, but their beliefs do not fit into my idea of genuine anarchism. As far Capitalism, that is what anarchism opposes. I don't feel a need to elaborate. I don't know anyone who identifies as an anarcho-capitalist, and I don't know anyone who agrees with the ideals defined by it. Anarcho-syndicalism to me would require a state to control so m |
| 519 | 1 | The interpersonal and economic relationships that produce capitalism are not really compatible with anarchism. |
| 520 | 1 | Same as before. Religion is collective. Government is collective. Collectivism is slavery. |
| 521 | 1 | As written above |
| 522 | 1 | divisive for various reasons (I know, ironic, eh??) |
| 523 | 1 | Individualism, while an important _personal_ quality, which leads to more ethical decision-making, goes right against the fundamental socialist basis of anarchism and is used as a political end or mass political tool only by non-socialists. Socialism and individualism are opposites. Primitivists may also be anarchists, but I think the two are completely separate. Anarchism places no requirement on humanity to do things better for the planet, just to do things collectively and from the bottom |
| 524 | 1 | These are organized into classes. This survey is shooting the cause in the foot too. |
| 525 | 1 | because it is two opposite |
| 526 | 1 | same reason as above. lifestyle anarchism is something more personal, i believe. I feel that anarchy is more about unification of the community rather than the individual. i perceive lifestyle anarchy as selfish as well as self destructive. don't get me wrong... everyone loves beer and loud music. but it shouldnt be your life. |
| 527 | 1 | economics is the core issue, that is where the power is held, its just silly to be a anarcho-capatalist |
| 528 | 1 | As stated in the previous answer, all these systems require some form of regulation to exist. Anarchy is the complete absence of authoritarian control. That means markets free of regulation, which most of these systems do not allow. Anything which limits or controls interactions between individuals cannot be called anarchy. Anarchy is pure voluntaryism, it is just that simple. |
| 529 | 1 | I don't understand the divisions. Anarchy simply means 'no rulers'(no government).Adding anything to it that tries to force someone to do what they will not is government, whether by the many or the one. |
| 530 | 1 | Anarchism as I see it is against capital. People who call themselves anarcho-capitalists are simply capitalists or libertarians who was to seem edgy. |
| 531 | 1 | Primitivism: in practise they are authoric Anarcho-Capitalism: wannabe rich bastards with a crude ideology |
| 532 | 1 | I'm not familiar with all terms above, but any collective anarchy is ipso facto false anarchy. |
| 533 | 1 | With such labels you can't judge anyone's "commitment" or "genuineity" in regard to anarchism. Of course, there are tendencies that I don't appreciate among people, and perhaps, even consider being "not-genuine" / "fake" / "on the wrong path". But in that case the judgement is based on an evaluation of individual and his/her acts; not the labels themselves without a referent in flesh and blood. |
| 534 | 1 | While the wholesale destruction of the ecology of Earth is almost self-evident, the green movement has a fascistic desire to control others, in the name of a greater good. |
| 535 | 1 | Nobody owns the word, so anything can call itself anarchism. But anarchism and capitalism don't go together. I leave the benefit of doubt to the other tendencies... |
| 536 | 1 | We are opposed to the state and capitalism. Anarcho-capitalism is simply cooptation of what is seen to be youth trends, disguising U.S.-styled Libertarianism (in the Libertarian Party tendency). This is as antithetical to anarchism as anarchist-nationalism. |
| 537 | 1 | Neither deal with the abolition of power relations and class domination. Both miss the point (by focussing solely on the state or technology) and both end up doing nothing useful in (any) anarchist movement towards free, classless society. |
| 538 | 1 | Same as the question before. |
| 539 | 1 | As per above. |
| 540 | 1 | Contradiction of terms |
| 541 | 1 | Capitalism brings with it an illegitimate hierarchical system no matter what. |
| 542 | 1 | Syndicalism start with a restrictive structure from the start and Chistian lack self-critism and self-corection. |
| 543 | 1 | Though anarchism is not a 'fixed ideology' like marxism, and has no 'holy book' like marxism, it does have a tradition from which it stems. I do not believe that the selected options above properly refer to those traditions or profoundly relate to them in a way that we could designate them as entirely anarchist - despite anarchism's broad brush. |
| 544 | 1 | I don't have the time to critique all of these in detail but the basic gist is that individual anarchism is an absurd fantasy given that humans are social animals and the only true anarchists are revolutionary anarchists. |
| 545 | 1 | Because they all put personality before the community. Anarchism is a modern word for 'Democracy' only democracy has been hi-jacked. Government of the people by the people means an awakened society which is one tier - and that is what anarchy is also... |
| 546 | 1 | Capitalism with a different name. |
| 547 | 1 | Capitalism is inherently authoritarian and oppressive. One cannot be both an anarchist and a capitalist or supporter of capitalism. It's a completely nonsensical position. It's like saying one were an anarcho-fascist. |
| 548 | 1 | Anarchism is about the lack of a coercive state, not a new one under a new name. It is individual, not collective; collectivism necessitates coercion. |
| 549 | 1 | Anarchism is a social practice, and the ones I marked seem to go into individualist and nothing else. |
| 550 | 1 | capitalism is driven by profit, Nothing profit driven is efficient or sustainable, regardless of social system the underlying mechanisms are the creators of debt and a destroyer of abundance. Christianity is a top down authoritarian organization which in itself has no similarity with anarchism. It teaches people to shirk responsibility for their actions since they are "born with original sin" It teaches people subservience is OK, it has been at the root of some of the most genocidal acts in o |
| 551 | 1 | Individualism can be a great evil as can christianity. Soapboxing is a major problem as it turns many genuine people off |
| 552 | 1 | Not in the the spirit of what anarchism is about. Even though I vehemently disagree with primitivism, I still see it's train of thought as inherently "anarchist". |
| 553 | 1 | Anarchism is the absence of hierarchy, and capitalism is the main source of hierarchy, and is thus inconsistent with anarchism. Any sect that demands one ideology and commands the minds of the people is anti-democratic and not anarchist. |
| 554 | 1 | Capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive, a truly free society cannot be capitalist, as capitalims is exploitative by nature. |
| 555 | 1 | Same as above: Anarcho-capitalism is a contradiction. The libertarian capitalists already stole the word libertarian, let's not let them steal anarchism, too. |
| 556 | 1 | Anarchism means free society, for me, not free class of capitalist living of hard work of working class |
| 557 | 1 | Same as above: Much of the thought from these trends lack a foundation, are highly inconsistent, Western and moralistic. Anarchism is an ideology with a foundation, not a word which can be invoked for any anti-statist activity. Insurrectionary anarchism has been long dead and proved to be an ineffective way to mobilise for social change - "You can't blow up a social relationship". Anarcho-capitalism is basically an online Ayn Rand fan club who like the 'sexiness' of anarchism - nothing to do wit |
| 558 | 1 | Capitalism breeds hierarchy, hierarchy leads to discrimination, discrimination leads to less freedom therefore capitalism cannot be a truly "free" society and christian anarchism it has a leader/master so it is hypocritcal |
| 559 | 1 | Capitalism is the use of force to exploit labour. |
| 560 | 1 | Academic anarchism is not anarchism because one cannot truly be an anarchist if one is taking advantage of state privilieges to indoctrinate a class with his/her beliefs. Lifestyle anarchism is not anarchism because simply wearing some converse sneakers with an anarchist sign on it doesn't mean you ascribe to the philosophy of anarchism. Christian Anarchism is an oxymoron. Now to be fair, people who claim to be Christian anarchists to not intend to create a theocratic society. However, ove |
| 561 | 1 | anarchism that allows ownership of private property, especially the ownership of manufacturing, will eventually evolve a class structure. A class structure becomes a new type of goverment and a limitation of individuals choice of life. A class structure, that arrises with any kind of syndication or ownership, will create a power structure, and as such is opposed to any kind of society that tries to be free of opression. |
| 562 | 1 | i dont care about labels, but stuff like christian anarchism sound riddiculous.. |
| 563 | 1 | The reality is that primitivism's end goal is a world in which individuals are incapable of exploring or innovating past a certain point. A society cut off from rigorous empirical examination will never be capable of understanding the stars or molecules no matter how much woo-woo they dick around with. Not only would our knowledge of the world be constrained, our minds and lives would stagnate. This is not liberation. (A fair percentage of the anarcho-capitalist milieu has shifted rather s |
| 564 | 1 | blatant disregard for the idea of avoiding human hierarchies. |
| 565 | 1 | Same as the above. |
| 566 | 1 | Each tendency can, in its own way, be "anarchist." But I would say that some tendencies are more likely than others to belong more properly to other tendencies such as american libertarianism (anarcho-capitalism, individualism). |
| 567 | 1 | I don't even know what that could mean. Sounds like the free market to me. |
| 568 | 1 | A "higher" being, whether it be an almighty god, or an almighty dollar, will rule, and therefore not focus on people and their needs. |
| 569 | 1 | Capitalism is propped up by the state. Without it, capitalism would collapse. |
| 570 | 1 | Wanting others to do as you wish can't be anarchism. |
| 571 | 1 | It's not anarchism. It's fundamentalism; the entire basis is upon religious belief that not everyone shares, and this, I feel, fundamentally undermines any anarchist tendencies, as the overbearing Christian culture adopted in the movement could easily become coercive or dominating. |
| 572 | 1 | Why not make a list of what these people are doing and get others to network with them if they want to join? This is symantic bullshit. |
| 573 | 1 | Not class strugglist |
| 574 | 1 | there is only one anarchism; |
| 575 | 1 | Anarchism is profoundly collective and about socialism, liberty, progress and increasing the standard of living for the vast majority. Those who want to take us backwards, or see politics as some sort of trendy hobby, or defend economic inequality have nothing to do with our tradition. |
| 576 | 1 | capitalism is oppressive and those people dont deserve the "anarcho" prefix. Individualism is counter productive. |
| 577 | 1 | "anarchists" who want to impose their ideas of property on other people's property are not anarchists. |
| 578 | 1 | It is hard for a french speaker like me to be explicit. |
| 579 | 1 | I think I answered this question above. |
| 580 | 1 | Anarchism relies on the collective effort of a community. Capitalism is the opposite of this. |
| 581 | 1 | Because it is not anarchist. It is propertarian nonsense. |
| 582 | 1 | Anarchism is either a revolutionary socialist perspective, or it is meaningless babble and an apologia for taking no responsibility. |
| 583 | 1 | To not allow someone to say - work for a wage - simply is creating a hierarchy. The ones who want freedom of association, including working for a wage, on the bottom and the ones denying that freedom of association on top. Some anarchists are really just anti-authoritarian in the strictest sense - being against all forms of authority including voluntarily association where an individual may willingly put themselves under the authority of another (like if a teacher tells a student to finish an as |
| 584 | 1 | These things are less about changing society and more about the individual's desire/need to change. Anarchism is a movement about political/social change. Not about what each individual wants to the exclusion of any collective participation. |
| 585 | 1 | One CANNOT be a revolutionary anarchist if one believes in a deity. I am a materialist |
| 586 | 1 | both dont oppose capitalism enough |
| 587 | 1 | Everything except for anarcho-capitalism which is bullshit is an aspect of anarchism in my opinion. |
| 588 | 1 | Capitalism and anarchism cannot co-exist, in my opinion |
| 589 | 1 | how can an anarchist be a capitalist, i goes against all the morals we stand for. similarly individualists cant really be anarchists because, in my views, anarchism is about the collective. individualsim is selfish. |
| 590 | 1 | Capitalism is oppressive and only leads back to the state, primitivism is eco-fascism and would cause a death of at least 90% of the human population to return society to traditional band-level hunting-gathering, individualism and and lifestyle anarchism forget the importance of mass movements, post-anarchism can't even exist because anarchism hasn't even been achieved yet, and academic anarchism is too often stuck in the ivory tower. |
| 591 | 1 | Ditch modern society and live with the Amish, rather than spend my time complaining about the evils of today. |
| 592 | 1 | Anarchy simplified is socialism (anti-capitalism) combined with anti-authoritarianism. Anarcho-Capitalism is in support of capitalism. |
| 593 | 1 | I'm really weary of people trying to decide for others how "genuine" they are. That's why I've pretty much given up on labels altogther. Labels are pigeonholes, and they only result in pointless bickering. What really matters is the values you promote through your lifestyle. As an aside, that's also why I'm reluctant to publicly identify as an anarchist -- the general public has a stereotype of anarchists that's almost entirely foreign to my values. |
| 594 | 1 | Capitalism is an ideology explicitly founded on the exploitation, disrespect, domination, and destruction of human animals, non-human animals, and all life. |
| 595 | 1 | i would differ with some in that i would consider anarcho capitalism to be a form of anarchism in the sense that it rejects the State and its concomitant coercion, violence, and hierarchy and because it is based upon a conception of extreme individual liberty; it is not anarchist (by the definition of most anarchists) in the sense that doesn't reject the hierarchy and exploitation of a corporation or other capitalist workplace. |
| 596 | 1 | Anarchism should mean treating people decently and whatnot. More a kind of intelligent conservatism. |
| 597 | 1 | Again, while there can be (and often are) problems with each of these, I see the benefits outweighing the concerns. |
| 598 | 1 | Capitalism is hiearchical thus non-anarchistic |
| 599 | 1 | Because capitalism requires exploitation and hierarchy, no one can be truly free whilst these things exist. Anarchy *is* freedom. |
| 600 | 1 | Anarchism is based off logic, Primitivism is based off some weird idea from fight club. |
| 601 | 1 | Kind of said above. Platformists are supporters of leadership and pushing one opinion in disguise. Individuals unbalance anarchist phil. Capitalist libertarians are a different breed of similar thinking, but pro-capitalists are not anarchists b/c it would make it impossible to fully appreciate the collective side of the anarchism. |
| 602 | 1 | I do not know even the basic definitions of half of these |
| 603 | 1 | As I said above, I classify myself as an anarcho-capitalist. So would say that's not real anarchy because it creates a hierarchy. However I don't think anarchy is really about hierarchies it's about force more specifically the initiation of it. As long as someones version of anarchy doesn't violate the non-aggression axiom than it's fine with me. |
| 604 | 1 | Christian anarchism is nonsense in my opinion (that I see it the first time), and I think that because I was raised in a Christian environment and anarchism and Christianity as such, are two different "things" |
| 605 | 1 | As they are not part of the wider working class movement in which anarchism exists. |
| 606 | 1 | statelessness is statelessness. |
| 607 | 1 | Anarcho-Syndicalists pay too much attention to so-called working class and sometimes this "working class" is so indefinite that it seems to be mythical. The problem is too complex to focus on some "workers", although work is an essential thing in our lives. I'm a member of some "anarchosyndycalist" group, but I'm not an anarcho-syndicalist. Anarcho-Capitalism is a mistake. It's very important to criticise capitalism, monetarism and I don't believe that anarcho-capitalists can give any solution |
| 608 | 1 | Capitalism cannot be reconciled with anarchism because exploitation and inequality are fundamental to capitalism |
| 609 | 1 | I think platformism is kindda ML way- defending "pioneerism"... And anarcho-capitalism defends property which means limitation of others' access to the goods and nature that should belong to anyone. Anarcho-capitalism cannot stand without having some authority or police force. That's why it's NOT genuinely anarchist. |
| 610 | 1 | anarchists should use whole energy into best way of help to whole community |
| 611 | 1 | I disagree with this question- I am not one to decide what or who is genuine. So-I have ticked the ones that make me feel particularly uncomfortable. |
| 612 | 1 | Privately owned police forces to protect private property does not sound anarchistic in any respect to me. |
| 613 | 1 | Individualism and anti-organizationalism neglect interdependency and downplay or deny the need to build collective projects that can meet the needs of anything bigger than themselves. I appreciate the honest boundary-setting of individualist anti-authoritarians, however I see the rejection of collective work and organization as unhelpful to social revolution. Lifestyle anarchism is not a political identity I have heard people claim, but I would say that I have seen (and participated in) polit |
| 614 | 1 | Because anarchism is inherently anti-capitalist, since any form of capitalism would create social inequality. |
| 615 | 1 | They grant freedom, and demand responsibility. |
| 616 | 1 | Anarcho Capitalism is another word for corporate fascism. |
| 617 | 1 | they just don't want the government, but seem ok whith mose other forms of hierarchical instutions, and forms of oppression. |
| 618 | 1 | Idividualist/capitalist anarchism, and relgious (here exemplified Christian) anarchism are fundamentally wrong ideals, because they preserve in anarchy the exact things that we're trying to be rid of: stratification. An anarchist society that employs currency will always have those who are capable of acquiring more than others, and this will always cause those who have to fear the have-nots and seek to keep them away. Much in the same way, anarchism with organized religion such as Christianity a |
| 619 | 1 | Capitalism is one of our primary enemies as anarchists, to combine anarchism and capitalism is ridiculous. |
| 620 | 1 | Me-ism is not anarchist, any more than cloak-with-bomb, chaotic nihilism or 'cannot organise' is anarchist. This selfish egoism does not reflect the European tradition on anarchism. I think the other trends of anarchism I dislike above are anarchist, but not libertarian [not on the list above I note], primitivist and capitalist. |
| 621 | 1 | I believe that capitalism concentrates power in the hands of one class, and removing logical government barriers to corporate exploitation is not genuinely anarchist because it is not of the people, but it establishes a government by proxy---the business and the bourgeoisie. |
| 622 | 1 | I'm afraid that some forms of primitivism and some forms of anarcho-capitalism seem to lack the basic commitments to human freedom and equality that make us anarchists. |
| 623 | 1 | Religion and anarchism simply do not not go together - particularly orgnised religion, eg, christian anarchism |
| 624 | 1 | "not genuinely anarchist" - LOL |
| 625 | 1 | It is not genuinely interested in the abolition of hierarchy & exploitation. Capitalism is essentially exploitative, and the only way it can be considered otherwise (i.e. labour as fair & equal exchange) is through deliberately misconceiving reality. Anarcho-capitalism would seem to be more of a radical liberalism conception of the world. |
| 626 | 1 | In a true anarchist society, any lifestyle choice should be possible. Anarchism is not a lifestyle. |
| 627 | 1 | Capitalism requires coercion to secure capital. Not anarchist. |
| 628 | 1 | Because anarchism is anti-capitalist by its very nature and its history. |
| 629 | 1 | This is a rough topic. No True Scotsman and all that. That said, I may not go so far to say that the checked items are "not genuinely anarchist", but I would say that they are at the very least silly. |
| 630 | 1 | Short-sighted, emotive-driven arguments. |
| 631 | 1 | Because anarcho-capitalism's all about the money! |
| 632 | 1 | I do see how someone could be a anarcho-capitalist but the way i understand and experience anarchism capitalism is in direct opposition both practical and theoretical |
| 633 | 1 | CrimeThink for me is just a tool/strategy of how to survive or spread your ideas in capitalist society, it does not bring any solutions. |
| 634 | 1 | capitalism is a form of authoritarianism. By embracing the market and wage labor, anarchists are embracing hierarchy. |
| 635 | 1 | While I don't support violence, I think it is possible to be violent against the state and still an anarchist... (If a bad, counterproductive, ineffectual one). However, I do NOT think is is possible to hold collectivist, self sacrificing, or anti-reason/rationality beliefs as with Platformism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Christian Anarchism, or Sectarianism - and still actually be an Anarchist. Those people are ruled, and want to be ruled, and have beliefs and values that they would sacrifice the |
| 636 | 1 | private property... |
| 637 | 1 | Pleas see above.... |
| 638 | 1 | i'm not in a position to demarcate genuine from non-genuine - this is heavily factionalistic - but I am personally uninterested in any kind of anarchism that fails to overcome, or at least seek to overcome, the modes of rationality and governmentality that have been in play in the West for most of the last two millennia. Certainly most of the above strands are culpable in this regard. |
| 639 | 1 | It´s only evolution way to real anarchism. |
| 640 | 1 | Because anarchism came from the socialist movement. |
| 641 | 1 | I've spoken with and dialogged with primitivists and while they genuinely distrust state solutions to perceived problems, they certainly advocate the initiation of force. Which posits them little different than the state, insofar as I am concerned. But I refuse to apply that to all primitivists because, well, I can only speak for the ones I know. |
| 642 | 1 | anarchism has always been a part of socialist traditions, so individualism and capitalism are out. "post-anarchism" seems like it is largely an unconvincing attempt at slapping together disparate theories many of which explicity are anti-revolutionary into a revolutionary framework. primitivism fails to see capitalism as a social relationship... |
| 643 | 1 | Individualist and post-left anarchist tendencies will never liberate the majority of the world's population. They have no working examples in history. Christian anarchism because it is self-contradictory, since God is an (undemocratic), unquestionable authority. |
| 644 | 1 | Capitalism and Religion are both forms of domination and oppression and are not compatible with anarchism's goal of liberation. Lifestyle and individualist anarchism both perpetuate some of the central problems of capitalism since they focus on a form of freedom that is 1) impossible and undesirable, since we can never be free from others nor should we want to be and 2) practical only insofar that we oppress others and force them to produce for us. |
| 645 | 1 | As long as a person doesn't want a society with any sort of leadership that has moral and/or legal legitimacy, then they are an anarchist. |
| 646 | 1 | Again they talk more about reform than abolition, and tend to put emphasis upon certain small segments of the society. |
| 647 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron in my opinion. To associate Christianity with anarchism is odd to me because it does not involve eliminating all authoritarian structures from our lives. There would still be the worship of god, and that would require submitting to "his" word. |
| 648 | 1 | Anarchism means a lack of hierarchy not a lack of civilization. |
| 649 | 1 | I don't think capitalism is possible without a state to support it. |
| 650 | 1 | They are capitalist :( |
| 651 | 1 | At heart anarchism must be about class and opposing hierarchies (power) - as a result I do no think it is possible to be anarchist while accepting either. 'No gods, no masters' as Bakunin said. |
| 652 | 1 | I don't usually play the "No True Anarchist" game. |
| 653 | 1 | Capitalism needs to be destroyed for an anarchist society to exist. I cannot comment in general terms as, again, I am not sure what many of these stand for. If anarchism is purely 'academic' it could be quite useless. Anarchism has always been a practiced theory, so if 'academic' writing is a form of activism it may have lots to offer, if it is a job that sees anarchism as a good way to publish books and have a cushy job, then it is not anarchism. |
| 654 | 1 | capitalism and christianity are inapposite to anarchism |
| 655 | 1 | Platformism is essentially vanguardist, whereas anarcho-capitalism.. well, fuck those people. |
| 656 | 1 | Primitivism would require the death of billions. I can't think of anything more anti-egalitarian than that. Oh yeah, and it's the insane musings of a few privileged idiots. I don't know what post-anarchism is really. But they don't really seem intent on building any sort of mass movement. CrimethInc doesn't care about a mass movement either, as far as I can tell. Same with lifestyle anarchism. Anarcho-capitalism is a few middle class white men hoping to make more money through deregu |
| 657 | 1 | I'd like to emphasize, I really don't care whether or not they "count" as anarchists. Like I said previously, I like the anarchist capitalists. On every major issue of oppression they say pretty sane things, the exception of course being in the workplace. They're anti-war, etc. However it is a contradiction in terms to be an "anarchist capitalist," because capitalism implies centralized authority over social institutions. A capitalist corporation is comparable to a state in that it is a social i |
| 658 | 1 | Because if you don't live by the ideals you have adopted then you are not what you pretend to be |
| 659 | 1 | Even though I object to some trends in anarchism, I usually don't like to say what is and isn't anarchism. However, to me, anarchism is a theory of social organization for people who don't like coercive hierarchies. The three boxes I checked are the three ideologies that seem least concerned with building a better society, and more concerned with individual freedom. Yes, individual freedom is incredibly important, but I think that it's inherently tied in to the well-being of society as a whole. |
| 660 | 1 | Anarchism at the very least must be socialist...none of these tendencies are. |
| 661 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is an insult to every person that claims to be an anarchist. It should change name... |
| 662 | 1 | Property requires a legal basis. |
| 663 | 1 | Anarcho-Communism in fact recreates the state - while every social organization can be considered statist, rendering some amount of state always present, it is not anarchistic to promote it. CrimethInc grows dependent on the current state. |
| 664 | 1 | Some of these may or may not be "anti-authoritarian" or "libertarian" in some ways, but they cannot be considered within the historical tradition of anarchism. |
| 665 | 1 | Without the abolition of capital you cannot achieve a non-hierarchical society. Capitalism depends on inequality. |
| 666 | 1 | Lifestyle anarchism does not address the problems of the system and only lifestyle choices, and anarcho-capitalism is pro-capitalist which is not compatible with anarchism. |
| 667 | 1 | I consider Anarchism to be complete freedom. Capitalism is oppressive. No one can be free in capitalist society. |
| 668 | 1 | Christianity can be revolutionary as almost everything, and the main drive of christian anarchism seems to be not anarchism, but christianity taken... more literally. |
| 669 | 1 | Capitalism inherently creates power structures. |
| 670 | 1 | Anarchism is about helping the human race. For a primitivist society to work much of the race would have to be eliminated. This is a disturbing and horrific notion for obvious reasons. Capitalism is not anarchistic, and is the opposite of liberty as I mentioned before. I think the idea of capitalism and anarchism combined is ludicrous, a fraud, and I think anarcho-capitalist theories are hijacking the movement. |
| 671 | 1 | Primitivism because it is, amongst many other things, fundamentally anti-rationalist. It rejects, what I think is the fundamental basis of anarchism, that people working together on equal terms, can transform and build a better world for all. A large part of this is the liberating power of technology, and to call technology itself oppressive is to massively miss the point that oppression is a social condition, even if technology can be used by oppressors. Technology may utterly transform the nat |
| 672 | 1 | the two terms are polar opposites at every level. |
| 673 | 1 | social wholes, undo the self and allow for greater expectations. |
| 674 | 1 | Anarcho-primitivism isn't anarchism insamuch as we use the anarchist definition of anarchism as "a system without unwarranted authority". If we use the definition of anarchy as defined in most dictionaries, i.e. "the lack of government", then primitivism is the only real anarchist theory and the other anarchist theories are extreme minimal government philosophies that do not presuppose a single monopolizer on the right of power. |
| 675 | 1 | Capitalism no matter what is always in fundamental opposition to Anarchy because with it comes Hiarchy and oppression of the working class! |
| 676 | 1 | Capitalism creates hierarchy and relies on concepts of private property |
| 677 | 1 | In order to have primitivism there must be a presence of force that prevents people from using the resources of the world and thus there are no rights to property, something that naturally arises from living in proximity to others. |
| 678 | 1 | i'll stand in solidarity with you if you'll stand in solidarity with me. permaculturalists and communards are here for the movement, you should come check our shit out. we'll feed you in paradise as we build it. if you snub it than you'll never get to taste the beauty we've already manifested, and that would suck for you... not my place to give you a label, unless you get hierarchical in which case obviously we'll call you on your shit. with the market so distorted i wonder how one puts anarc |
| 679 | 1 | capitalism is inherently hierarchical |
| 680 | 1 | Anarchism implies a system of mutual aid and co-operation and explicitly excludes exploitation of any sort - that is, of course, the foundation of capitalism and essential to it. Thus, anarcho-capitalism is more accurately desribed as laissez-faire capitalism or perhaps, hyper-capitalism or say 'capitalism with the gloves off..' |
| 681 | 1 | I honestly think that capitalism and true freedom do not mix well. But, I have not done a whole lot of research on Anarcho-Capitalism, and so it is just an assumption based on nothing, really. |
| 682 | 1 | Religion and anarchy cannot work together |
| 683 | 1 | Traditions are quaint but they run their course. |
| 684 | 1 | Capitalism is obviously a creator of classes, and if there are rich and poor then there is no freedom. |
| 685 | 1 | The whole idea of capital is based on the concept that it is excusable to hoard more or anything than your neighbor if they are in need. It is inherently hierarchical. It seems to me that hierarchy of any kind is one of the inherent enemies of anarchism and anarchists alike. |
| 686 | 1 | In short, property rights - while they may be absolute, should not be the guiding tenet of a philosophy |
| 687 | 1 | Because these don't share the same fundamental means -- i.e. lack the working class as the agent of change. (Certain of these tendencies -- such as primitivism or anarcho-capitalism -- doesn't even share the goal: a communist society.) |
| 688 | 1 | Capitalist is evil. |
| 689 | 1 | golden age worship can only go so far and often ends in tyranny. a lot of the sacrifices primitivists would agree to make would also compromise vital evolved networks that make anarchism more possible than ever before. |
| 690 | 1 | I understand anarchism as an important current within communism (understood in its widest sense as struggles for human/social emancipation existing throughout history), thus I think class struggle has to be at its centre, tho its emphasis on individual liberation is what makes it more tenable than more authoritarian forms of communism. Primitivism and lifestylism are fantasist, and anarcho-capitalism is just neo-liberalism with a countercultural twist. I think of myself as a libertarian commu |
| 691 | 1 | Similar to lifestyle anarchism, but when people take to the extreme, not understanding that there is not just one way to be anarchist or that by excluding people excludes them from emancipation and creates the equivilant of a closed wall society. Also that some have to live inside capitalsim due to partner or childrens needs even if does not suit their philosophical anarchsim. Also there are other types of anarchism such as graffiti crews, which go unrecognised but they fighting the same battl |
| 692 | 1 | it means different things to different people just like many other ideas. |
| 693 | 1 | It's complicated. |
| 694 | 1 | True anarchism has always been the enemy of capitalism. |
| 695 | 1 | Not really sure... |
| 696 | 1 | Same as above: "Capitalism is one of the primary problems with our current system. An anarcho-capitalist system would be terrible" |
| 697 | 1 | I sort of don't believe in anarcho-capitalism. Everyone says they exist, but I've never encountered one. If they did exist, I wouldn't like them. |
| 698 | 1 | anarchism - of all varieties - seeks to abolish bossism and the wage system. Capitalism depends upon authoritarian structures to exist. |
| 699 | 1 | Organized action by working-class people is the only action worth a damn. |
| 700 | 1 | The theory and practice of Anarchism is the struggle against coercion, domination, and exploitation and the manifestations of illegitimate authority anywhere; the above tendencies are either incompetent to nurture this struggle, sustain it, or are even openly against this struggle and have a vision of a future characterized by exactly what we claim to fight against. Anarcho-capitalism, by embracing private-property seeks to perpetuate the very force which has monopolized the productive capabilit |
| 701 | 1 | Domination by the Market will result. Fuck capitalism. Also, worried slightly about religious anarchism, but, hopefully that wouldn't be too big of a deal. |
| 702 | 1 | Same as above reason! |
| 703 | 1 | Individualism- Their more than just 1 person on this planet Primitivism- I like my easy bake oven Lifestyle anarchism- filled with trust fund middle classer's Anarcho-Capitalism- Capitalism=Explotation Platformism- Wants to reform trade-unions and not hugely critical on Nationalism |
| 704 | 1 | See previous answer. Any group that considers intellectual property to be legitimate cannot be a genuinely anarchist group. |
| 705 | 1 | Capitalism is inherently hierarchical. |
| 706 | 1 | capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive to one another |
| 707 | 1 | Capitalism and Nationalism (of the conservative/reactionary type) are both recognized as oppressive systems |
| 708 | 1 | Anarchism is inherently a social and revolutionary movement and Anarcho capitalism is the opposite of this and is to be honest dumb as fuck. |
| 709 | 1 | Anarchism can never be realised under the auspices of capitalism. Capitalism causes heirarchies and social orders that are not appropriate in anarchism. |
| 710 | 1 | for the reasons that I mentioned before |
| 711 | 1 | Who gives a fuck about all that jargon? Less analysis, more destruction! |
| 712 | 1 | Primitivism, Individualism, Post-anarchism, Lifestylism, Anarcho-capitalism, insurrectionism: Because any political ideology that calls itself anarchist but does not advocate a decentralized, democratic federated communist society and the abolition of capitalism through organized class struggle, is not actually anarchism as far as I'm concerned. |
| 713 | 1 | Individualism & primitivism can be strains of anarchism, but non-anarchists may also adopt these ideologies. "Anarcho-capitalism" is a code for a specific strain of "propertarian" U.S. "libertarianism," which is distinct from the sense of "libertarian" or "anarchist" as understood in the rest of the world. |
| 714 | 1 | All tendencies are equally valid. |
| 715 | 1 | no religion |
| 716 | 1 | anarchism cannot work without socialism, these tendencies fail to recognise so. |
| 717 | 1 | "Anarcho-Capitalist" and "Christian Anarchist" are both based fundamentally in hierarchy, god, profit, etc., all of which makes them not anarchist in the slightist. |
| 718 | 1 | how do you enforce private property? |
| 719 | 1 | Anarchism cannot be capitalist. I also feel that anarchism is fundamentally a form of socialism (in fact, the only authentic socialism), and thus cannot be reconciled with individualism or primitivism. |
| 720 | 1 | kind of covered some of this in the previous text box. |
| 721 | 1 | Anarcho-capitalism is a contradiction in terms, an anarchist society can never be capitalist Christian anarchism is a trend initiated by people who tend to believe that anarchism is only a way of living and tend to fill it up ideologically with christian values |
| 722 | 1 | 1)Stirner 2)Machno 3)American suckers (From Marcuse till Zinn/Chomsky) 4)Spanish Revolution 5)All ideology in central/west Europe is religion-based,for further info as above(...coffee..) |